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NBA Draft
Jul 29, 2021 21:23:35 GMT -5
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Post by wareagle on Jul 29, 2021 21:23:35 GMT -5
Charlotte is my early winner thus far. Addressed that big hole at the C position with the trade for Plumlee and the drafting of Kai Jones and got a nice gift of high powered scorer Bouknight falling to them at #11
Also, I want to say Joshua Primo was a reach for the Spurs at #12 but the team knows how to draft guards, so I'll defer to their judgment.
OKC is going to be guaranteed the overall number 1 pick in 2025 as they will own all lottery picks that year.
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Post by eddieeddie on Jul 29, 2021 23:26:48 GMT -5
Clippers traded a future 2nd and cash for rights to #33 Jason Preston Name didn't ring a bell. Looked him up and last two seasons at Ohio he averaged: 16.8ppg 6.4rpg 7.4apg 1.4spg 51.5fg% 40.7 3fg% 15.7ppg 7.3rpg 7.3apg 1.5spg 51.4fg% 39 3fg% Understanding the MAC is lesser competition but those are some impressive statlines and Ohio did knock off defending champs Virginia in the 1st round of the NCAA Tourney
Some good value picks in the 2nd round but love the #38 pick by Chicago. Dosonmu dealt with injuries late that impacted his NCAA Tourney but averaged 20.1ppg 6.3rpg 5.3apg 39 3fg% in his junior season. He also gets to stay local given his hometown is Chicago and he went to the Univ of Illinois.
And looks like Spurs drafted the next Duncan Robinson at #41 with Wieskamp.
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Post by eddieeddie on Jan 26, 2022 15:09:40 GMT -5
Not that I've followed enough to know any difference but ESPN+ tossed out a mock draft for both rounds
Apparently Lakers have no picks. 1st to MEM, 2nd to SA. Clippers owe their 1st to MEM. They do own their 2nd though. So going to be boring draft for LA - at least going in.
The lottery is:
1. Orlando Magic Chet Holmgren | Gonzaga | PF | Age: 19.7
2. Detroit Pistons Paolo Banchero | Duke | PF/C | Age: 19.2
3. Houston Rockets Jabari Smith | Auburn | SF/PF | Age: 18.7
4. Oklahoma City Thunder Jalen Duren | Memphis | C | Age: 18.1
5. Sacramento Kings Jaden Ivey | Purdue | PG/SG | Age: 19.9
6. San Antonio Spurs Keegan Murray | Iowa | PF/C | Age: 21.4
7. New Orleans Pelicans Shaedon Sharpe | Kentucky | SG | Age: 18.6
8. Indiana Pacers Johnny Davis | Wisconsin | PG/SG | Age: 19.9
9. Washington Wizards TyTy Washington Jr. | Kentucky | PG/SG | Age: 20.1
10. Atlanta Hawks Bennedict Mathurin | Arizona | SF | Age: 19.6
11. New York Knicks A.J. Griffin | Duke | SF/PF | Age: 18.4
12. Portland Trail Blazers Ochai Agbaji | Kansas | SF | Age: 21.7
13. Memphis Grizzlies (from Lakers) Jean Montero | Overtime Elite | PG/SG | Age: 18.5
14. Toronto Raptors MarJon Beauchamp | G League Ignite | SG/SF | Age: 21.2
Looked up Chet Holmgren. Dude looks like Pokusevski from OKC. 7'0" 195 freshman. 13.6ppg 8.5rpg 2.1apg 3.4bpg 61.8fg% 39.6 3fg% 73.8ft%. Definitely an intriguing statline.
2 Duke players. This Banchero kid - 17.9ppg 7.9rpg 2.7apg 1.2spg 0.9bpg 33.9 3fg% as a 6'10" 250lb freshman. Definitely looks to be an upgrade from Beef Stew.
A guy named Washington going to Washington would be fun. Exciting freshman G from Kentucky. We've obviously seen that before.
As would be another Murray going to the Spurs. This Murray is averaging 22.8ppg 8.4rpg 1.4spg 2.2bpg 34.1 3gf% as a 6'8" PF. Sounds like a logical pickup for SA.
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Post by eddieeddie on Mar 15, 2022 13:46:40 GMT -5
Draft Combine: Monday, May 16 – Sunday, May 22 in Chicago.
Draft Lottery: Tuesday, May 17 in Chicago.
2022 NBA Draft: Thursday, June 23 in Brooklyn (Barclays Center).
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Post by eddieeddie on Mar 29, 2022 18:31:43 GMT -5
Keegan Murray is entering the draft. No surprise. Iowa's disappointing NCAA Tourney aside, kid can flat out score.
23.5ppg 8.7rpg 1.5apg 1.3spg 1.9bpg 1.9 3pg 55.4fg% 39.8 3fg%
Should be a solid offensive SF for whoever drafts him.
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NBA Draft
Apr 2, 2022 22:33:29 GMT -5
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Post by wareagle on Apr 2, 2022 22:33:29 GMT -5
I’d be fine with the Rockets getting Smith or Banchero.
It’s been a bit of a relief to see Green finally looking like a lottery pick.
If we could just trade our owner we might have a bright future!!
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NBA Draft
Apr 3, 2022 6:05:35 GMT -5
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Post by YoungThundercat on Apr 3, 2022 6:05:35 GMT -5
I think I'd have it Smith/Banchero/Holmgren right now.
If Chet can put and keep on an extra 10-15 lbs of muscle, sky is the limit for him. Banchero I think will just be a reliable 20 ppg guy.
But Jabari...man... That kid looks like he has the frame to support a bit of extra muscle and his scoring can look downright KD/TMac-ish at times. He could win multiple scoring titles in the league and definitely could be a #1 on a title team if he hits his ceiling.
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Post by varsity on Apr 3, 2022 10:29:15 GMT -5
I think I'd have it Smith/Banchero/Holmgren right now. If Chet can put and keep on an extra 10-15 lbs of muscle, sky is the limit for him. Banchero I think will just be a reliable 20 ppg guy. But Jabari...man... That kid looks like he has the frame to support a bit of extra muscle and his scoring can look downright KD/TMac-ish at times. He could win multiple scoring titles in the league and definitely could be a #1 on a title team if he hits his ceiling. I think how the draft lottery shakes out will determine a lot because I don't see a lot of separation between all the top prospects. You have a team like Orlando who has some talent at positions but just not that marquee star to take them to the next level. You kinda figure Anthony/Suggs is their projected backcourt of the future and you have some talent with Franz Wagner and Carter Jr. as a promising frontcourt. But they are lacking that star and I don't really see one guaranteed lock in this draft. So do they move their pick and some pieces for a star player. Not really high on Holmgren though I think with some weight, he can have a solid career in the NBA. I think the ceiling of Banchero and Smith may come down to where they end up at. Situation like Portland could be ideal. Houston - not so much IMO. And it looks like Jaden Ivey is the guard high on most boards. Could see teams angling to move up for him. And oh yeah... Fook Dook. Not an UNC fan but I'm fine with Coach K getting bounced before another ring especially twice by the same team in both tourneys (NCAA and ACC).
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Post by eddieeddie on Apr 18, 2022 18:31:04 GMT -5
Lottery as of right now - with odds of first pick
Houston Rockets (14.0%) Orlando Magic (14.0%) Detroit Pistons (14.0%) Oklahoma City Thunder (12.5%) Indiana Pacers (10.5%) Portland Trail Blazers (9.0%) Sacramento Kings (7.5%) New Orleans Pelicans (from Lakers) (6.0%) San Antonio Spurs (4.5%) Washington Wizards (3.0%) New York Knicks (2.0%) Oklahoma City Thunder (from Clippers) (1.5%) Charlotte Hornets (1.0%) Cleveland Cavaliers (0.5%)
Rest of 1st round after tiebreakers were conducted today
15 Charlotte Hornets (from Pelicans) 16 Atlanta Hawks 17 Houston Rockets (from Nets) 18 Chicago Bulls 19 Minnesota Timberwolves 20 San Antonio Spurs (from Raptors) 21 Denver Nuggets 22 Memphis Grizzlies (from Jazz) 23 Brooklyn Nets (from Sixers) 24 Milwaukee Bucks 25 San Antonio Spurs (from Morons) 26 Dallas Mavericks 27 Miami Heat 28 Golden State Warriors 29 Memphis Grizzlies 30 Oklahoma City Thunder (from Suns)
Pre lottery:
As usual OKC has a crapload of picks. 4, 12, 30 (and also 34). At some point this team needs to stop being the Boston Morons of a decade ago and hoarding these picks and turn them into something useful. I read somewhere they'd want to move up to top 3 ensure they get one of Chet, Jabari Smith or Banchero since their biggest need is frontcourt and not wing guys like Ivey, Murray etc.
If I'm Orlando I listen because getting an Ivey/Murray might make more sense for them than drafting another frontcourt player anyhow. If Orlando can get OKC to offer #4 plus one of Poku or Robinson-Earl, figure it's worth consideration. Could even cost more. For OKC, should be worth it because that team needs high end frontcourt talent to add to SGA, Giddey, Dort etc. A guy like Banchero would be huge given his pure scoring ability and that the Thunder ranked dead last in scoring.
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Post by eddieeddie on Apr 26, 2022 13:32:05 GMT -5
Caleb Houston from Michigan is testing the draft waters. I'm going to safely assume that once the feedback comes in, he is back in Michigan next season. I understand he was a big time recruit entering his freshman season but the guy averaged 10.1ppg, shot 38.4% overall and had more turnovers than assists. I expect the same for the other freshman who was a big time recruit who "declared" in Moussa Diabate, who will likely be remembered more for being suspended one game for throwing punches in the whole Juwan Howard situation than anything he did on the court. Ironically Michigan's best player - Hunter Dickinson - said he'd be back for his junior year and isn't even testing the draft process.
Assuming all 3 are back - with improvements from the others in the 2021 class in Bufkin, Collins, Barnes and then the 2022 class with studs like C Reed, SF Howard, PG McDaniel, PF Glenn - Michigan should be solid next season.
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Post by doakley8 on May 5, 2022 13:55:31 GMT -5
KENNETH LOFTON JR.
any thoughts on the big fella's transition to the NBA..not seeing him on Mock Drafts
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NBA Draft
May 8, 2022 18:17:51 GMT -5
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Post by wareagle on May 8, 2022 18:17:51 GMT -5
Question of the day:
Who is Victor Wembanyama?
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NBA Draft
May 8, 2022 18:46:40 GMT -5
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Post by YoungThundercat on May 8, 2022 18:46:40 GMT -5
Question of the day: Who is Victor Wembanyama? French phenom who's slated for next year's class. Imagine Chet Holmgren, but better. Still the same physique, though. So we'll be rehashing all these Chet convos this time next year.
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NBA Draft
May 8, 2022 18:50:58 GMT -5
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Post by YoungThundercat on May 8, 2022 18:50:58 GMT -5
Better question:
When was the last time we saw a dropoff like Emoni Bates?
This time last year he was the next KD, the he gets to Memphis, shows worse jump measurements than D'Lo and clocks a negative wingspan. Barely plays for the Tigers and has already entered the transfer portal hoping for a fresh start somewhere else.
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Post by varsity on May 8, 2022 20:26:58 GMT -5
Question of the day: Who is Victor Wembanyama? I never heard of him. But a quick Google search and I see 7'2 and 229 pounds at 18 years old.
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Post by eddieeddie on May 8, 2022 21:58:09 GMT -5
Question of the day: Who is Victor Wembanyama?
I saw a video on twitter about a freakishly tall kid who should be a big time prospect in 2023.
The video was impressive. Didn't catch his name but now I see it's clearly this Victor guy.
In this day and age, if you're a 7 footer, don't bother trying to learn low post moves like Hakeem and make sure you can shoot like Sam Perkins instead
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NBA Draft
May 9, 2022 6:29:34 GMT -5
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Post by wareagle on May 9, 2022 6:29:34 GMT -5
You guys make me dig deep.
I had no idea who he was until about 5 minutes before I posted the question.
But now I am going to live in a world - just like I live in a world where I know who Heriberto Hernandez & Elehuris Montero are because of that one roto league Melbourne, Shaq, & I compete in - where I know the names of the top pre-eighteen year old Euro players, along with the top players on the G League Ignite & Overtime Elite rosters!!
Thanks for adding to the font of “only useful in one specific scenario” information in my head, fellas!! No worries - I’ll just remove something unimportant like Algebra, so I can keep Victor Wembanyama in long term memory!! 🤣🤣🤣
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NBA Draft
May 9, 2022 6:54:14 GMT -5
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Post by YoungThundercat on May 9, 2022 6:54:14 GMT -5
You guys make me dig deep. I had no idea who he was until about 5 minutes before I posted the question. But now I am going to live in a world - just like I live in a world where I know who Heriberto Hernandez & Elehuris Montero are because of that one roto league Melbourne, Shaq, & I compete in - where I know the names of the top pre-eighteen year old Euro players, along with the top players on the G League Ignite & Overtime Elite rosters!! Thanks for adding to the font of “only useful in one specific scenario” information in my head, fellas!! No worries - I’ll just remove something unimportant like Algebra, so I can keep Victor Wembanyama in long term memory!! 🤣🤣🤣 Do you one better, check Scoot Henderson who will be the Ja Morant to Wenbanyama's Zion on the draft next year. Kid looks fantastic and could (like Ja) easily be the consensus #1 in any other draft class.
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Post by doakley8 on May 9, 2022 15:15:59 GMT -5
The Lakers announce their first draft workout for Tuesday with DeVante’ Jones – Michigan Jeriah Horne – Tulsa Kaodirichi Akobundu-Ehiogu – UT Arlington Jamaree Bouyea – San Francisco Jordan Usher – Georgia Tech Grant Golden – Richmond
0 for 5 on knowing these guys for me.
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Post by eddieeddie on May 9, 2022 15:43:41 GMT -5
0 for 5 on knowing these guys for me.
The Lakers have 0 draft picks in this upcoming draft. Suffice to say they're going to be working out a bunch of randos.
Jones, Horne, Bouyea, Usher all had 4 or even 5 years in college. Golden had 6 years. No joke, 6 at Richmond.
Ehiogu is the only one who didn't have that long of a tenure, spending 2 years at UT Arlington. The guy averaged 3.3bpg and 2.6bpg in those years despite playing less than 22mpg. So he is that.
Obviously wouldn't expect anything here BUT Jeriah Horne is an intriguing prospect for his shooting ability. In the land of undrafted free agents, the Lakers should be looking for the next Duncan Robinson and Horne is that type.
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NBA Draft
May 17, 2022 13:56:53 GMT -5
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Post by YoungThundercat on May 17, 2022 13:56:53 GMT -5
So who's winning the lottery tonight?
Or
Who do you want to win the lottery tonight?
I've been in such a self loathing mood with my fandom all season, there's a sick part of me that would love to see that Lakers pick jump to #1 and them have to hand it to NO.
Of the realistic options, I'd love to see Orlando get up to #1. I believe they haven't moved UP in the draft since the Penny Hardaway year, always stayed where they were or moved down. Maybe get themselves a guy with real superstar potential to pair with a lot of pretty good level young guys.
I wouldn't mind Portland moving up. I'd like to see Dame rewarded for the loyalty rather than him becoming the next KG being made fun of for all the years he "wasted" before eventually going ring chasing.
I would also love it for Sacramento, so we could watch them take AJ Griffin over Chet/Jabari/Paolo. The Bagley meme is starting to lose steam since he isn't a King anymore.
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Post by doakley8 on May 17, 2022 14:09:10 GMT -5
Dame moving up would be something I'd want. I'd like to see Banchero with Dame
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Post by eddieeddie on May 17, 2022 15:47:11 GMT -5
I've been in such a self loathing mood with my fandom all season, there's a sick part of me that would love to see that Lakers pick jump to #1 and them have to hand it to NO.
Actually I'd like to see that too. Honestly, at this point, I almost relish all the salt in the wounds of the Lakers front office because they deserve every bit of embarrassment they are getting. This might... emphasis on *might*.... cause them to at least show some restraint in throwing our draft picks like candy for win now moves. I mean, not that anyone would go back in time and undo the AD trade, but more so for future trades.
As for who I'd like to see win the #1 pick, I agree with Portland. The top pick and an elite prospect would reinvigorate Dame and that franchise. I know the odds are super duper low but it'd be hilarious to see OKC land #1 and #2 and then have draft analysts try the hell to figure out what that franchise - with their 200 "young talents" on the team - would do.
For fun, I'd like to see the lottery land in the top 4
#1 POR - Jabari Smith is exactly what this team needs next to Dame, Simons, Nurk to get back into relevance. Right? I'm going a different direction. They were linked to Jerami Grant. Here they trade #1 for #3 and Jerami Grant (using their 21M trade exception to absorb Grant - and then subsequently extend him). Dame wants to win now, so getting a veteran like Grant, while still staying within the top 3 is a big move.
So now on the clock...
#1 Detroit.... drafts the aforementioned Jabari Smith.
Adding him gives the team a big time young core and by unloading Grant, they not only gain a fat trade exception of their own but create even more cap space to make a run at..... Jalen Brunson, who may have just made himself too expensive for Dallas to retain with his playoff performance. Brunson + Cade + Bey + J. Smith + Beef Stew..... not too shabby.
#2 OKC - While I would love to see Chet and Poku on the court at the same time for the sheer novelty, this pick screams Banchero because of their utter lack of offensive scoring from the frontcourt. SGA needs a #2 scorer and Giddey needs someone to pass to. When the answer to both has been Lu Dort, that's why you suck.
#3 POR - With Grant locked in, they don't need to look at PF and can just go upside and that is Jaden Ivey. Freakishly athletic scorer. Should contribute right away as a 6th man and gives the team options to spell Dame/Simons or even run a smallish three guard lineup. Plus, while I doubt POR is thinking about it now, it gives them insurance if Dame wants a trade out as they can at least have Simons/Ivey long term.
#4 SA - The Spurs already have like 40 wings. Would they really draft Shaedon Sharpe over a sliding Chet? Damn right they would. San Antonio cares not for convention. After unloading White and with Walker a free agent, they need a running mate for D. Murray in the backcourt and Sharpe brings an exciting athletic wing to the lineup. With picks #20 and #25, they can draft for the frontcourt later.
#5 HOU - The slide from #1 to #5. Bummer. Or is it? Nope because amazingly the guy they would have drafted #1 in Chet just so happens to be there. Nice! The Chet + Sengun is set to terrorize the league for years with their array of skills and gangly limbs.
#6 ORL - The slide from #2 to #6. Bummer. Or is it? Yes, it's a bummer. They would have wanted Jabari or Ivey had they stayed top 2. Instead they are probably looking at AJ Griffin or Benedict Mathurin. Good prospects but not what you want.
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Post by eddieeddie on May 17, 2022 19:18:02 GMT -5
Fun to see all the random ex-players there
Here we go......
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Post by eddieeddie on May 17, 2022 19:20:41 GMT -5
14 Cavs 13 Hornets 12 Thunder (via LAC) 11 Knicks (sorry no moving up for you) 10 Wizards 9 Spurs 8 Pelicans (via LAL - Laker fans can breathe)
Chalk up to this point
7 Blazers
6 Pacers 5 Pistons
Means Kings move up from 8th spot. Pistons slide from 3rd spot
Top 4 will be some mix of Rockets, Magic, Thunder, Kings
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Post by eddieeddie on May 17, 2022 19:26:14 GMT -5
4 Kings 3 Rockets
2 Thunder
1 Magic
So Rockets slide from 1 to 3 Thunder move from 4 to 2
Magic go from 2 to get pick 1 again after Shaq, CWebb, Dwight.
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Post by eddieeddie on May 17, 2022 19:32:04 GMT -5
Magic had last year
#5 pick and #8 pick 2021 #15 pick and #24 pick 2020
#16 pick 2019 #6 pick and #7 pick and #25 pick 2018
#1 pick and #6 pick 2017
So much youth but now they have a chance to add a big time prospect to add to their main core of Cole, Suggs, Franz and WCJ.
5 Pistons - K. Murray
4 Kings - Sharpe 3 Rockets - Banchero 2 Thunder - Holmgren 1 Magic - Jabari Smith
Givony has this as his early mock.
Poku and Chet!!!!
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NBA Draft
May 17, 2022 19:33:16 GMT -5
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Post by wareagle on May 17, 2022 19:33:16 GMT -5
4 Kings 3 Rockets
2 Thunder
1 Magic
So Rockets slide from 1 to 3 Thunder move from 4 to 2
Magic go from 2 to get pick 1 again after Shaq, CWebb, Dwight.
No luck for the Rockets for the second year in a row!!
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NBA Draft
May 17, 2022 19:35:42 GMT -5
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Post by doakley8 on May 17, 2022 19:35:42 GMT -5
Orlando already has like 16 big men other roster it seems. Need a wing
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Post by eddieeddie on May 17, 2022 19:38:41 GMT -5
4 Kings 3 Rockets
2 Thunder
1 Magic
So Rockets slide from 1 to 3 Thunder move from 4 to 2
Magic go from 2 to get pick 1 again after Shaq, CWebb, Dwight.
No luck for the Rockets for the second year in a row!!
Good. They need to not be rewarded for being the worst team in the league in back to back years.
That said, they did fine last year with Jalen Green and I'm pretty sure they'll be fine this year with whoever is left between Jabari, Chet and Banchero.
Detroit is the one who can't be happy falling out of the top 4. They should hope Givony is right in the Kings going with Sharpe, which would leave the Pistons a great option with Ivey ( I like Keegan Murray but don't agree that should be the pick there)
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