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Post by YoungThundercat on Aug 17, 2021 10:50:08 GMT -5
Nets vs Lakers on Christmas day Honestly they'd have been stupid not to
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Post by eddieeddie on Aug 17, 2021 11:46:18 GMT -5
Damn, Culver's stats look bad. Other than injury prone, the SG can't shoot. 40%fg, 29%3's, 50%ft I'd be happy to take Hernangomez lol Yea, zero chance Rondo even visits Memphis and I don't think Embiid's contract is overpaid..I mean it is..but you got to give him the max and I don't think 33 is bad..if it was 36 yea, 37 for sure. But as long as he stops falling down all the time I think he'll play for a while.
Culver sucks as a scorer, no question about that. His strength is versatility, defense and upside as a playmaker. He was awesome in the 2019 NCAA Tourney taking Texas Tech to the Final 4. His NBA career has been a disappointment obviously but there is still untapped potential given he is only 22. It's gross to think the Wolves traded the #11 pick AND Saric to move up for Culver. That trade ended up huge for the Suns because that landed them not just Saric but Cam Johnson.
Yeah you have to give Embiid the MAX but 4 years 196M but that's a ton for someone with his injury history. 33 for someone else isn't old, like a Vucevic or Brook Lopez. 33 for Embiid who isn't even holding up physically at 27 is a different story. The guy was injured even before his NBA career started and has played 260 regular season games in 7 seasons. 260 in 7! Foot. Foot. Foot. Knee. Face. Knee. Hand. Shoulder. Knee again. This guy is 27 but has the body of a 33 year old, so imagine how he'll be at 31 or 32. Not saying he is Greg Oden or Andrew Bynum or Ralph Sampson but I am concerned about giving him 6 years. If Embiid was even remotely durable, this is a fair contract. No brainer. For someone likely to give you 60 out of 82 regular season games now, with question marks in 4 to 6 years, and a toss-up to be healthy in the playoffs in general, it's overpaid.......
And I say this as someone who drafted him #7 overall in a dynasty league because those 60 games, he'll be awesome. The 22 he'll miss, I have Myles Turner and Richaun Holmes.
Guess good thing the Sixers have Andre "Baywatch" Drummond
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Post by doakley8 on Aug 17, 2021 11:49:39 GMT -5
Well Embiid gives you points, 3's, FG%, rebounds, and blocks and shoots 80% FT, throw in about a steal a game as well...he's a fantasy stud. Just gotta hold ur breath when he's jumping in the lane with a crowd
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Post by eddieeddie on Aug 18, 2021 10:57:22 GMT -5
Via HR: "Isaiah Thomas, Darren Collison and Mike James all recently worked out for the Lakers, who are looking for veteran help to fill out their roster, writes Chris Haynes of Yahoo Sports.... The Lakers are expected to move on from veteran shooter Jared Dudley, Haynes adds. Dudley is a free agent after playing 12 games last season."
Thought for sure the Lakers would keep Dudley for "veteran experience" but I suppose they have more than enough of that now and would be better off using that roster spot on someone who can actually play.
As for the PGs, if he's in shape and motivated, Collison is a no-brainer. He hasn't played in 2 years but the guy was basically good for 12ppg 5apg 40 3fg% and strong defense. Well-respected veteran, who happens to be an LA kid much like Russ.
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Post by doakley8 on Aug 18, 2021 15:09:31 GMT -5
Very solid career..but looking at his career #'s...they werent where I thought they'd be
14.9ppg 6.2apg 4.4rpg 42%FG 37%3's 81% FT 1.3steals.
I know it took about 4 year-5 years to get his career going but I'm not putting up statues for em. even if his stats were better for a team
Thoughts on those career #'s if you dont know the player
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Post by eddieeddie on Aug 18, 2021 17:42:05 GMT -5
My first thought was Mike Conley and I went to check and his stats were really close to what you posted - but not exact, so clearly not him.
Then I thought Kyle Lowry because I knew he started slow. Bingo.
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Post by eddieeddie on Aug 18, 2021 19:36:00 GMT -5
Via HR
Based on information from our free agent tracker, there have been 10 free agent contracts signed this offseason that include at least $75MM in guaranteed money. They are as follows:
Kawhi Leonard, Clippers: Four years, $176.27MM (fourth-year player option) John Collins, Hawks: Five years, $125MM (fifth-year player option) Jarrett Allen, Cavaliers: Five years, $100MM Norman Powell, Trail Blazers: Five years, $90MM Duncan Robinson, Heat: Five years, $90MM (fifth-year early termination option) Kyle Lowry, Heat: Three years, $85MM DeMar DeRozan, Bulls: Three years, $81.9MM Lonzo Ball, Bulls: Four years, $80MM (fourth-year player option) Chris Paul, Suns: Four years, $120MM ($75MM fully guaranteed) Tim Hardaway Jr., Mavericks: Four years, $75MM
Quite the list:
You have one superstar who could miss all next season, two PGs who are studs but ancient, six guys who have 0 All-Star appearances between them....... and then 32 year old DeRozan who chose $ over a shot at a ring who happened to be traded for said superstar and was backcourt mates for a long time with one of the elderly PGs and is now playing alongside one of the non All-Stars.
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Post by varsity on Aug 19, 2021 11:07:42 GMT -5
Via HR: "Isaiah Thomas, Darren Collison and Mike James all recently worked out for the Lakers, who are looking for veteran help to fill out their roster, writes Chris Haynes of Yahoo Sports.... The Lakers are expected to move on from veteran shooter Jared Dudley, Haynes adds. Dudley is a free agent after playing 12 games last season."
Thought for sure the Lakers would keep Dudley for "veteran experience" but I suppose they have more than enough of that now and would be better off using that roster spot on someone who can actually play.
As for the PGs, if he's in shape and motivated, Collison is a no-brainer. He hasn't played in 2 years but the guy was basically good for 12ppg 5apg 40 3fg% and strong defense. Well-respected veteran, who happens to be an LA kid much like Russ.
I think I read from Chris Haynes of Yahoo Sports the Lakers are looking into moving Dudley to the bench.
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Post by eddieeddie on Aug 19, 2021 11:09:52 GMT -5
That makes total sense. If he's going to be a defacto assistant coach, may as well do so without wasting a roster spot - like the Heat with Haslem.
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Post by eddieeddie on Aug 19, 2021 11:18:58 GMT -5
Speaking of the Heat, have to imagine Riley is just waiting in the weeds for veterans
The Heat have a strong top 8 with Bam, Butler, Lowry, Duncan, Tucker, Herro, Dedmon, Markieff but after that the depth is super sketchy. Dipo is hurt right now.. Sure Okpala/Strus/Vincent/Yurtseven ould end up being more awesome Heat finds like Nunn, Duncan, Josh Richardson, Whiteside, Tyler Johnson, DJJ, McGruder etc in recent years...... or they could not. With the team going all-in, guys like Avery Bradley, Jeff Teague, Wes Matthews, Langston Galloway could provide some veteran insurance.
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Post by eddieeddie on Aug 19, 2021 11:22:43 GMT -5
Via ESPN: Terry Rozier agrees to four-year, $97 million extension with Charlotte Hornets. The most the Hornets could have given him and locks him up until 2026.
He is coming off a solid 20-4-4 with 38.9 3fg%. I guess with Ball under his rookie deal for 3 more years - coinciding with when Hayward is off the books and with Bouknight under his rookie deal for 4 years, there was some financial flexibility to lock Rozier up.
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Post by varsity on Aug 19, 2021 11:31:38 GMT -5
Josh Hart back to New Orleans on a 3 year/38 million dollar contract. Year 2 is non-guaranteed and Year 3 is a player option.
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Post by doakley8 on Aug 19, 2021 11:50:07 GMT -5
I was gonna say that's old news married man, but damn 2nd year non-guaranteed? lol way to commit..I didn't know the specifics of it. I think he's a 10.5M guy.
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Post by varsity on Aug 19, 2021 11:51:21 GMT -5
I was gonna say that's old news married man, but damn 2nd year non-guaranteed? lol way to commit..I didn't know the specifics of it. I think he's a 10.5M guy. Yeah I was posting more the specifics. Looks like Hart is betting on himself next season again.
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Post by doakley8 on Aug 19, 2021 12:12:41 GMT -5
yea, first ive seen on the specifics. Hart reminds me of a Danny Green..might bounce around to contenders later in his career.
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Post by eddieeddie on Aug 19, 2021 15:35:43 GMT -5
Josh Hart back to New Orleans on a 3 year/38 million dollar contract. Year 2 is non-guaranteed and Year 3 is a player option.
A player option on the 3rd year and also a team option. Hart has until June 24 to opt in and then if he opts in, New Orleans can decide by June 25 whether they want to opt in. So for all intents and purposes, this is a 1 year deal for New Orleans in terms of guaranteed $. Definitely the oddest construct of a contract I've seen.
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Post by eddieeddie on Aug 19, 2021 16:39:12 GMT -5
Via HR: "The Mavericks would be happy to acquire Lauri Markkanen from the Bulls if he would agree sign under market value so they could fit him into their $11MM traded player exception, according to Tim Cato of The Athletic. In that sign-and-trade scenario, the Mavericks likely wouldn’t have to give up a rotation player. The alternative would be to offer Markkanen a three-year deal in the $44MM range."
While obviously this is way less than what Lauri had in mind entering the offseason - and apparently he wanted enough where the Spurs, who gave Doug McDermott 3 years 42M, thought he was being unreasonable - he should look at what happened with Schroder and frankly take this salary. The market is telling him to take this salary.
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Post by doakley8 on Aug 24, 2021 19:40:15 GMT -5
Dudley to be assistant coach for the Mavs I think is a good move. I see him moving his way up quick in a few years if that's his goal.
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Post by eddieeddie on Aug 24, 2021 20:28:12 GMT -5
Dudley to be assistant coach for the Mavs I think is a good move. I see him moving his way up quick in a few years if that's his goal.
Lebron was pissed. Guess he - much like myself - thought Dudley would hang around the Lakers, similar to Udonis Haslem.
Dudley is definitely a coach in the making. Good snipe by Kidd, who is very familiar with Dudley.
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Post by varsity on Aug 26, 2021 12:08:42 GMT -5
Dame Lillard says he's not leaving Portland "right now at least" according to FoxSports.
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Post by eddieeddie on Aug 26, 2021 12:38:08 GMT -5
Dame Lillard says he's not leaving Portland "right now at least" according to FoxSports.
Dame is pretty much waiting for the same type of franchise altering move that Kobe was asking for with the Pau trade.
This should be construed as:
"I'm not asking for a trade. Yet. Your move Olshey"
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Post by doakley8 on Aug 27, 2021 11:38:02 GMT -5
Cleveland’s acquiring Chicago’s Lauri Markkanen in three-way sign and trade with Portland. Bulls get Derrick Jones Jr., POR’s lottery protected future 1st and Cavs’ future second-rounder. POR gets Larry Nance Jr.
So my Blazers traded DJJ & a Lottery protected 1st for injury prone Nance Jr.
Damn Dame
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Post by eddieeddie on Aug 27, 2021 12:10:21 GMT -5
Cleveland’s acquiring Chicago’s Lauri Markkanen in three-way sign and trade with Portland. Bulls get Derrick Jones Jr., POR’s lottery protected future 1st and Cavs’ future second-rounder. POR gets Larry Nance Jr. So my Blazers traded DJJ & a Lottery protected 1st for injury prone Nance Jr. Damn Dame
The hell? If any team should have been acquiring Lauri in all this it is Portland since Cavs already have Mobley/Allen. What does Nance do for Portland, other than replace Collins as the big who is likely to get injured?
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Post by eddieeddie on Aug 27, 2021 12:38:51 GMT -5
Guessing that because Nance is due about 1M more than DJJ, allowed Lauri to get a larger contract. He's apparently getting 4 years 67M from the Cavs.
I wonder if Schroder is like "sigh"
Cavs definitely need to move Love - or send him home while they try and trade him - because Lauri/Allen/Mobley/Kabengele/Wade leaves no room for him.
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Post by varsity on Aug 27, 2021 12:45:41 GMT -5
I just saw the article on ESPN.com and had to read it 3 times. DJJ and a protected first for Larry Nance JR? What is Portland thinking?
Clearly the Bulls made out like bandits. They got a 1st and DJJ for a player they didn't want. I think it's a wash for the Cavs.
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Post by eddieeddie on Aug 27, 2021 12:48:12 GMT -5
Irony is in the basketball dynasty league i'm in with thundercat, earlier this week I traded Myles Turner/Ziaire Williams for Jamaal Murray/Lauri Markkanen - bought low on Lauri.
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Post by doakley8 on Aug 27, 2021 12:49:24 GMT -5
I think Love gets the Al Horford, sit at home and get paid treatment. Although I don't see Love playing much longer..maybe I'm wrong
Cavs really committed to their #3 pick, but adding another big
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Post by eddieeddie on Aug 27, 2021 12:57:27 GMT -5
Cavs really committed to their #3 pick, but adding another big
I've been notably high on Mobley but sitting behind Lauri/Allen is probably good for his overall development. Much like Wiseman would have been better off with a year on the bench. My guess is the Cavs just did this also to rebuild Lauri's value this season and then flip him because if he flashes anything similar to his 2018-2019 season, that contract will look like a bargain. It's a risky move though because he may very well just be what he has been the last two seasons, which is a glorified Ersan Ilyasova.
I spoke to a few co-workers in our Cleveland office and they LOVED Larry Nance and hate this move with a vengeance. To be fair, I did like Nance on the Lakers and was sad to see him go. I just don't know that he is anymore than a good hustle big and while I'm sure he can help Portland, it's hardly the type of move that'll somehow appease Dame and be worth that 1st rd pick.
I wanna see the Bulls run out a Zo, Caruso, DJJ, DeRozan all at the same time and just run the opponent into the ground with athleticism.
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Post by varsity on Aug 27, 2021 14:36:16 GMT -5
I think Love gets the Al Horford, sit at home and get paid treatment. Although I don't see Love playing much longer..maybe I'm wrong Cavs really committed to their #3 pick, but adding another big Love has 2 years/60 million on his deal but he's only 32 so I can see closer to the deadline becoming a buyout or trade candidate. I don't know if playing on Cleveland even motivates him to play anymore especially if he slowly gets fazed out by Lauri, Mobley and Allen. So I can see a situation near the deadline where he just says, buy me out. Maybe walk away with 40-45 of that 60 million and go somewhere and possibly recoup a portion of that.
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Post by varsity on Aug 27, 2021 14:53:33 GMT -5
DeAndre Jordan is entering Year 3 of a four-year, $40 million contract he signed with the Brooklyn Nets in 2019, but The Athletic does not expect him to remain with the team when the 21-22 season starts. The Nets have shopped Jordan throughout the offseason and draft and plan to start Blake Griffin at center according to reports.
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