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Post by doakley8 on Nov 8, 2019 13:02:19 GMT -5
Steph Curry is expected to miss the rest of the season
Well damn....
* oh and Ric Bucher is the source..so take it for what it's worth in all tanking matters included
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Post by eddieeddie on Nov 8, 2019 14:43:11 GMT -5
Oh wow, if true, then may as well just give DLo free reign to bolster his stats and trade value - all the while tanking.
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Post by varsity on Nov 8, 2019 16:26:03 GMT -5
It's Bucher so I do take it with a grain of salt but I wouldn't be shocked if he's right. It's really no need of playing this season. I know fans don't want to hear it but getting a high lottery pick and starting over next year helps them even more than competing.
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Post by eddieeddie on Nov 8, 2019 18:49:25 GMT -5
2020-2021 season could be very good the Warriors
Healthy Klay. Healthy Steph. Motivated Dray suffering through a wasted season. Kevon Looney. High draft pick. Young guys getting a lot of time to develop. Paschall looks pretty good, Poole and Spellman have shown flashes. Smailagic is hurt but they like him a lot. Whatever they get back for DLo in a trade - which even with his contract, they should net a solid return.
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Post by doakley8 on Nov 11, 2019 12:34:18 GMT -5
Even before Sunday news conference, Knicks president Steve Mills had started to lay internal groundwork for the eventual ouster of coach David Fizdale.
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Post by eddieeddie on Nov 11, 2019 15:33:02 GMT -5
Since 2013, Laker fans have had to deal with mismatched rosters, crappy records and thus tanking for picks, disappointing free agency periods, head coaching turnover, drama with the team and/or front office etc etc. A LOT of that changed this past offseason. I realize Vogel was by no means the preferred coach and he has Kidd hovering around him, Lebron is aging, Anthony Davis is technically a FA after this season, the team missed out on Kawhi, the team has a ton of FAs in 2020 and 2021 thus even more roster overhaul is imminent and the cupboard for draft picks is pretty bare going forward BUT at least for the present, the team is a legitimate title contender and there is something to be excited about.
Outside of a short three year period of quasi-relevance from 2010-2011 to 2012-2013, the Knicks have been a losing, if not outright lousy, team since 2001. Here they are, suffering the same issues the Lakers did. Crappy record. Questions about the coach. Severely disappointing free agency period. Likewise for the draft not getting Zion.... and a very much mismatched roster. I mean qualify the structures of the contracts all you want but coming away with Portis, Payton, Gibson, Ellington, Marcus Morris and Reggie Bullock? I leave out Randle because he was a solid signing from the get-go. Morris has been solid for them but he is 30 and all he is doing is blocking the way of others, like Knox. I don't hate on getting paid but he really should have kept his commitment to the Spurs.
I don't know if the Lakers will ever win the title with Lebron/AD or even how long the relationship will last and who knows what the post Lebron-era will look like but for now, I am just SUPER glad that the Lakers have dug themselves out of that craphole they've been in and the same one the Knicks remain in.
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Post by varsity on Nov 11, 2019 19:09:55 GMT -5
Even before Sunday news conference, Knicks president Steve Mills had started to lay internal groundwork for the eventual ouster of coach David Fizdale. Franchise is an embarrassment.
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Post by varsity on Nov 11, 2019 19:10:53 GMT -5
Khris Middleton is out 3-4 weeks with a left thigh contusion via Chris Mannix of SI.com
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Post by eddieeddie on Nov 11, 2019 21:02:58 GMT -5
Hayward to miss 6 weeks after hand surgery
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Post by doakley8 on Nov 12, 2019 14:18:01 GMT -5
"That’s the problem here: the Knicks management think they had a great off-season…they’re not a good team. But you’re going to fire David Fizdale, and then what do you have? The same damn roster.
Dan Patrick this morning on his show, which is what everybody's saying
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Post by eddieeddie on Nov 12, 2019 14:45:26 GMT -5
"That’s the problem here: the Knicks management think they had a great off-season"
Literally the only people on this planet who think that.
Given their draft odds + cap space (which they created by trading away Porzingis), a "great offseason" would have been what the fans were crossing their fingers for: Zion + 2 MAX free agents.
Instead they got RJ Barrett, Julius Randle and then a bunch of signings that would barely excite the Pistons fanbase, let alone the Knicks.
Management would be doing Fizdale a favor by paying him to leave.
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Post by varsity on Nov 12, 2019 18:33:15 GMT -5
With all the teams making moves this offseason, the easy thing for the Knicks to do, once they realized no one was coming, was to utilize their cap space to acquire assets and rebuild that way. They got a good haul for Porzingis but instead of signing Portis and Marcus Morris, they should've added some picks by using their cap space. Let's face it: no one major is signing in New York until that ownership/management structure changes. But if the Knicks had a boatload of picks, they could start aggressively making trades for major players or rebuild through the draft. Now you are stuck with a terrible roster and no cap space.
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Post by eddieeddie on Nov 12, 2019 18:50:00 GMT -5
FWIW, the team is looking at a lot of 2020 cap space given the only one of their signings with a guaranteed contract next season was Randle. Everyone else was either a team option (Portis), only guaranteed for 1M (Gibson, Ellington, Payton, Bullock) or just a one year contract (Morris).
Granted the 2020 Free Agent market won't be anywhere near as enticing as 2019 was but at the least they'll have similar flexibility this coming summer in terms of a presumably high draft pick, more than MAX cap space, they'll have tradeable contracts and a somewhat interesting core to build around with Barrett, Randle, Robinson etc. They also own all their future 1st rounders and the two Mavs' 1st rounders via the Porzingis trade if they felt like swinging a major trade.
I mean, they're just as likely to fail next offseason as they have in the past when having a similar situation but at least they didn't pull a Mozgov/Deng type summer.
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Post by eddieeddie on Nov 12, 2019 22:14:14 GMT -5
My friend mentioned to me that Chris Paul was playing pretty well for OKC. Maybe it's because I am not paying that much attention to the NBA or that I don't have a single Thunder player on my fantasy teams but frankly I kind of forgot Chris Paul was even on OKC for a while. 16.1ppg 3.6rpg 5.2apg 1.7spg 2.0 3pg 46fg% 44.4 3fg% in 29.9mpg. Given age, injury history and obviously his bloated contract, which still owes him 85M the next two seasons after this, teams won't be lining up to get him BUT at the least his play could potentially generate interest closer to the deadline.
Then OKC can truly unleash SGA by moving Paul. 21ppg 5.8rpg 3.4apg 1.8 3pg 0.7spg 0.7bpg 47.6fg% 40.9 3fg%. Still only 21 and in his 2nd year. When you consider OKC also got Gallinari (18.6ppg 5.0rpg 3.1 3pg 43.7 3fg%) and then the greatest haul of draft picks ever seen in a single trade, they simply did amazing in the PG trade all things considered.
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Post by doakley8 on Nov 14, 2019 21:05:26 GMT -5
Melo signing non guaranteed deal with the Blazers.
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Post by eddieeddie on Nov 14, 2019 21:36:15 GMT -5
I saw that and just for the heckuvit I picked him up in my 18 team league.
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Post by varsity on Nov 15, 2019 11:53:34 GMT -5
Dame has been pretty vocal about Melo getting back in the league and they desperately need help upfront. If Melo can get you 12-15 ppg off the bench a night, that should help.
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Post by doakley8 on Nov 18, 2019 12:32:55 GMT -5
The Houston Rockets are waiving forward Ryan Anderson, league sources tell @the Athletic @stadium.
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Post by eddieeddie on Nov 18, 2019 13:35:32 GMT -5
Full circle.
The Rockets were the one who absurdly gave him that 4 year 80M contract in 2016 so figures they are the ones to pretty much put a nail in the coffin of his career now. All it took was two mediocre seasons, two salary dumps and then the Heat eating 15.6M to unload him before this season. If your ONLY thing is shooting and you can't even do it well enough to stick on a Rockets team lacking frontcourt depth that values shooting probably more than any other team in the league, then you're done.
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Post by eddieeddie on Nov 19, 2019 17:19:06 GMT -5
I feel like Dwight Powell is the most overpaid player to fly under the radar.
In 2016, after a 5.8ppg 4.0rpg 3rd season, the Mavs gave him a 4 year 37M deal. In 2019, after Powell opted in to the final year, the Mavs gave him a 3 year 33M extension.
He's averaging 8.1ppg 4.8rpg 0.5spg 0.3bpgg in 25.2mpg this season
Hes a decent player I suppose but inexplicable what the Mavs see that justifies giving him 70M over the course of 7 years.
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Post by varsity on Nov 20, 2019 16:59:43 GMT -5
Blazers have waived F/C Pau Gasol after he was unsuccessful in his rehab of his left foot according ESPN.com. Gasol, Blazers working on details of coaching role as future HOFer remains in Portland to rehab.
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Post by eddieeddie on Nov 20, 2019 17:17:37 GMT -5
A shame that Pau's career is ending this way but he was still an effective player in 2017-2018 at the age of 37 and his 17th season. Not a lot of players can claim similar longevity. 20894 points 11305 rebounds 3925 assists 1941 blocks Career 50.7fg% Career 75.3ft% Only other player with 20K, 10K, 3500, 1750, 50%, 75% is: Julius Erving - and that is if you include his ABA stats
The FT% knocked off Duncan and Kareem. The FG% knocked off KG The FT%/Assists knocked off Hakeem Just tells you how versatile/efficient Pau was.
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Post by eddieeddie on Nov 20, 2019 21:49:18 GMT -5
What are the Knicks doing?
They started Taj Gibson and Marcus Morris, the latter seeing 40 minutes The only played Knox and Mitchell Robinson a total of 23 minutes.
Makes no sense.
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Post by doakley8 on Nov 21, 2019 8:22:23 GMT -5
Yaw putting Lou-Will in the Hall?
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Post by eddieeddie on Nov 21, 2019 12:57:50 GMT -5
Hall of Fame for Clutch Offensive Players, sure
That shot last night, big time balls on that one.
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Post by varsity on Nov 21, 2019 14:06:52 GMT -5
Clippers Hall of Fame. Perhaps his photo can go up in that tunnel that connects the 2 locker rooms.
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Post by doakley8 on Nov 21, 2019 14:22:49 GMT -5
lol damn
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Post by doakley8 on Nov 22, 2019 10:19:00 GMT -5
Rick Pitino told us on @siriusxmnba he tried to convince the Knicks to select Donovan Mitchell with the 7th pick in 2017... They told him they couldn't do it at #7, and took Frank Ntilikina instead.
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Post by eddieeddie on Nov 22, 2019 12:12:51 GMT -5
I have a coworker who is a Knicks fan and you hear him grumbling about how everything would be different if they got Steph Curry back in 2009. He went #7 and they settled on Jordan Hill #8.
I said if the Knicks wanted him, should have moved up to get him. Minnesota had #5 and #6. Probably could have paid something to get #6 and leapfrog the Warriors.
He goes: "Teams never move up in the top 10"
Uhhhhhh..... what?
At that moment I mentioned Luka and also the Hawks getting Hunter. That's the last two years. I looked closer, since 2014, 7 such trades.
Knicks only have themselves to blame for not being more aggressive. At least in that situation. Since like 1996, their problem has been terrible picks / trades more than bad luck.
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Post by varsity on Nov 22, 2019 12:30:49 GMT -5
Crazy part is I'm not sure if the Knicks drafted Curry, would he still stayed a Knick. As impressive as Curry's rookie year was, the Knicks were in cap cutting mode with hopes of signing 2 max players most notably LeBron James. They shipped Jordan Hill and a first rounder to Houston for McGrady to clear up another 9 million in space. My guess is if the Knicks really wanted the cap space, Daryl Morey would've insisted they part with Steph Curry. And given the management at the time, I'm more prone to believe they would. They were all in on 2010 free agency.
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