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Post by doakley8 on Oct 12, 2022 8:41:45 GMT -5
lmao..I'll toss in Miles Bridges..I got you fam!
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Post by varsity on Oct 12, 2022 9:05:32 GMT -5
Finally started watching the Lakers Legacy Dynasty series from the beginning. On Episode 4 right now. Was too young to even remember that Magic pushed for a trade and basically got the 1st coach fired. More and more I'm watching it, the more and more I see Magic was always the company man and could do anything he wanted.
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Post by doakley8 on Oct 12, 2022 9:08:22 GMT -5
I hear the Redeem Team is basically a Kobe doc, so I kinda wanna see that. I miss that dude, still sucks.
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Post by YoungThundercat on Oct 12, 2022 9:43:27 GMT -5
Finally started watching the Lakers Legacy Dynasty series from the beginning. On Episode 4 right now. Was too young to even remember that Magic pushed for a trade and basically got the 1st coach fired. More and more I'm watching it, the more and more I see Magic was always the company man and could do anything he wanted. Just watched the new one last night. Covered LBJ coming, the down 1st season and the AD trade.... But the majority of the episode is 2020. Kobe>Pandemic>George Floyd>Bubble>Jacob Blake (Kenosha,WI)>Championship. Man, I had almost started to forget how emotionally taxing that 6 months was from Feb-Aug, not only as a Lakers fan, but a human being as well.
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Post by eddieeddie on Oct 12, 2022 10:48:10 GMT -5
Finally started watching the Lakers Legacy Dynasty series from the beginning. On Episode 4 right now. Was too young to even remember that Magic pushed for a trade and basically got the 1st coach fired. More and more I'm watching it, the more and more I see Magic was always the company man and could do anything he wanted.
Wife and I watched every episode as it came out.
I think it was a very compelling series. I didn't care about most of the stuff related to the Buss siblings and they swept a lot of stuff under the rug as it relates to Jim but I did find a lot of the information new and interesting. The bombshell in the last episode was wild.
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Post by eddieeddie on Oct 12, 2022 10:51:25 GMT -5
Finally started watching the Lakers Legacy Dynasty series from the beginning. On Episode 4 right now. Was too young to even remember that Magic pushed for a trade and basically got the 1st coach fired. More and more I'm watching it, the more and more I see Magic was always the company man and could do anything he wanted. Just watched the new one last night. Covered LBJ coming, the down 1st season and the AD trade.... But the majority of the episode is 2020. Kobe>Pandemic>George Floyd>Bubble>Jacob Blake (Kenosha,WI)>Championship. Man, I had almost started to forget how emotionally taxing that 6 months was from Feb-Aug, not only as a Lakers fan, but a human being as well.
Was a tough episode to sit through because of the Kobe portion but I did appreciate them really taking the time to cover the toll the pandemic took, the racial justice portions and I'm also glad they ended on the championship. It'd be pretty lame if they extended into the 2020-2021 season and 2021-2022 season and were like "Oh btw the Lakers went back to not being particularly good again"
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Post by eddieeddie on Oct 12, 2022 10:52:48 GMT -5
I hear the Redeem Team is basically a Kobe doc, so I kinda wanna see that. I miss that dude, still sucks.
Maybe the back half but a lot of the doc didn't even involve him because he came late.
But yeah, the doc did well to show Kobe's insane work ethic, to show that he did in fact have a lighter side to him and just how much he meant to the team and the experience meant to him.
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Post by doakley8 on Oct 13, 2022 9:20:01 GMT -5
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Post by varsity on Oct 13, 2022 10:21:21 GMT -5
Writing is on the wall. I think at halftime Russ, Pat Bev and Nunn were a combined 0-12. Granted it's preseason but they lost to the Wolves who didn't have Gobert or Towns and Edwards had 5 points. Make the Buddy Hield trade and stop this fiasco.
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Post by eddieeddie on Oct 13, 2022 12:12:14 GMT -5
Unless the Lakers back off their stance of preserving 2023 cap space and/or refusal to include both their 2027 and 2029 picks, I expect Russ to be on the roster for the time being and honestly it might be best for both sides if they just went the John Wall route. Send him home until you can find a suitable trade.
SL: PatBev, Nunn, Lebron, AD, D. Jones 2nd: Schroder, L. Walker, Reaves, Gabriel, T. Bryant Rest: T. Brown, Christie, M. Ryan, JTA Chillin at home: Westbrook
Do I expect this team to win the title? No. Do I expect this team to be very competitive if it can stay healthy? Yes
Then who knows what might come up at the deadline.
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Post by doakley8 on Oct 13, 2022 12:25:28 GMT -5
The Sacramento Kings have waived Quinn Cook and Kent Bazemore
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Post by eddieeddie on Oct 13, 2022 12:36:06 GMT -5
Ya know, Kings can be a sneaky good team. They're actually pretty deep.
Fox/Sabonis are their key guys and they have strong depth behind them in case they suffer injuries yet again.
Huerter/Monk is a fairly solid SG tandem. Barnes is really underrated. Keegan Murray could be a stud out of the gates but if not, Lyles/Metu are quality bench options.
Too bad their coach is Mike Brown and they are the Sacramento Kings.
38-44 record incoming.
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Post by varsity on Oct 13, 2022 12:41:11 GMT -5
The Sacramento Kings have waived Quinn Cook and Kent Bazemore It's not quite the level of Dennis Schroeder's rumored 4/64 contract offer but Bazemore passed up more money and years with the Warriors to sign a 1 year deal with the Lakers last season. Warriors just went on to win the championship last season. Now he's waived by the Kings. Poor decisions.
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Post by eddieeddie on Oct 13, 2022 14:23:39 GMT -5
The Sacramento Kings have waived Quinn Cook and Kent Bazemore It's not quite the level of Dennis Schroeder's rumored 4/64 contract offer but Bazemore passed up more money and years with the Warriors to sign a 1 year deal with the Lakers last season. Warriors just went on to win the championship last season. Now he's waived by the Kings. Poor decisions.
To his credit, he chose a greater opportunity for playing time (or at least that was what was sold to him) over $. I can't fault a guy for that. Plus preseason actually had the Lakers ahead of the Warriors in Championship Odds, so it's not like he purposely chose to join a crappy team just to play more. In hindsight a poor decision of course - he was crappy, the Lakers were crappy, the Warriors won the title etc - but in 2021, it was a reasonably sound move on his part. The Schroder thing - which was 4 years 84M actually - was just stupid from the get-go because he was deluded and thought he was worth 100M to 120M.
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Post by varsity on Oct 13, 2022 14:42:32 GMT -5
Yeah I get it but I still think I would've taken the money and guarantee over the dice roll of the Lakers. In addition to the concern of the Lakers reneging on my playing time, I'd be more worried about being traded midseason. At least with Golden State, they are pretty much consistent with their roster throughout the year and while I agree the odds may have weighed more towards the Lakers, GS just seems like a lot more stable environment to compete in.
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Post by eddieeddie on Oct 13, 2022 15:26:35 GMT -5
Yeah I get it but I still think I would've taken the money and guarantee over the dice roll of the Lakers. In addition to the concern of the Lakers reneging on my playing time, I'd be more worried about being traded midseason. At least with Golden State, they are pretty much consistent with their roster throughout the year and while I agree the odds may have weighed more towards the Lakers, GS just seems like a lot more stable environment to compete in.
I'm sure Bazemore and his agent considered GSW to be more stable but I can't fault him for brushing that aside and viewing the Lakers as the more prime destination despite the higher risk of volatility. He was one year removed from a 4 year 70M contract and turning 32, so $ was probably not on his mind. He was zoned in on PT and a shot at a ring and as silly as it sounds in hindsight - more so the latter - the Lakers offered a better shot at both at the time of his signing. If you asked Bazemore would he have done things differently, hard to imagine he wouldn't say that he'd have just stayed with GSW. He'd probably be more of a Jared Dudley/Udonis Haslem-type but at least like them he'd have a ring to show for it. Versus living through the embarrassment that was the Lakers 2021-2022 season, which he himself played a role in because he flat out sucked.
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Post by doakley8 on Oct 13, 2022 15:35:09 GMT -5
Nobody has or possibly will fumble the bag worse than Miles Bridges. and Schroder still says he was never offered that deal.
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Post by eddieeddie on Oct 13, 2022 15:49:43 GMT -5
Sprewell will still be the posterboy for this topic. Not just turning down 3 years 21M extension in 2004 but his inane comments about it not being enough to feed his family. He played out his existing contract through 2005 and was out of the NBA afterwards.
You also have Nerlens Noel who turned down 4 years 70M from the Mavs because he was convinced by others he was worth 100M. He signed the QO for 4.1M. Played 30 games and had to settle for signing with the Thunder the next 2 seasons for a total of 3.8M. Luckily along came the Knicks, who have given him some nice coin in recent years.
THEN there is Oladipo who fumbled the bag TWICE. He was due to his FA in 2021.
January 2021: Pacers offered Oladipo 4 years 112M extension. He said no, so they traded him to Houston.
March 2021: Rockets offered Oladipo 2 year 45.2M contract extension. He said no, so they traded him to Miami. August 2021: Oladipo re-signs with Miami for 1 year 2.4M. July 2022: Oladipo re-signs with Miami for 2 years 18M (2nd year PO- where he will be 31)
Whoops.
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Post by varsity on Oct 13, 2022 16:33:41 GMT -5
Speaking on athletes and blowing money. Apparently Ben Gordon, who was arrested twice this week, had a hard time posting $5k bail and needed help from a bails bondman to get out. Now I don't feel bad one iota given the nature of the charges but it's crazy to think he made 84 million dollars on the court and is having trouble coming up with $5,000.
But yeah Oladipo definitely blew it especially considering the knee issues. I don't think he'll ever get to that level again and as pointed out, he's already 30.
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Post by eddieeddie on Oct 13, 2022 16:44:58 GMT -5
I actually didn't realize Gordon's period of solid production was so short. Essentially his 5 seasons with Chicago. Got paid by Detroit and all downhill from there when he suffered an ankle injury the next season. Detroit sucked. He was a productive bench player but was never the same. Chicago could have been amazing had they built around a core of Rose, Deng, Noah, Gordon. And they stayed healthy of course.
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Post by varsity on Oct 14, 2022 9:48:59 GMT -5
ESPN reporting with @mcten: The Lakers are planning to bring Russell Westbrook off the bench in the final preseason game vs. Kings tonight (ESPN, 10 ET). Darvin Ham and Westbrook have been exploring possibility of Westbrook quarterbacking second unit and they'll try it tonight.
Lakers’ Dennis Schroder has suffered a finger injury and his status is up in the air ahead of regular season next week, sources tell @theathletic @stadium. Schroder will not play in tonight’s game vs. Kings and is undergoing testing on severity and return timetable.
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Post by eddieeddie on Oct 14, 2022 12:01:06 GMT -5
ESPN reporting with @mcten: The Lakers are planning to bring Russell Westbrook off the bench in the final preseason game vs. Kings tonight (ESPN, 10 ET). Darvin Ham and Westbrook have been exploring possibility of Westbrook quarterbacking second unit and they'll try it tonight.
I mean, it makes the most sense because no matter how much they try to force it, Russ with Lebron/AD doesn't work from a skillset standpoint. Never did.
Pat Bev, who doesn't need the ball in his hands and has a 3&D skillset, is a far more logical PG next to Lebron/AD.
Just put Russ in that 2nd unit with scorers like Schroder/Walker and energy guys like Reaves/JTA/Gabriel and a big man with some range like T. Bryant and he can be more like himself out there.
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Post by varsity on Oct 14, 2022 17:22:14 GMT -5
The Houston Rockets are planning to waive center Derrick Favors, sources tell @theathletic @stadium. Rockets needed to make a roster cut to reach 15 guaranteed spots.
The Detroit Pistons are expected to waive guard Kemba Walker as expected per Woj.
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Post by eddieeddie on Oct 14, 2022 17:55:43 GMT -5
The Houston Rockets are planning to waive center Derrick Favors, sources tell @theathletic @stadium. Rockets needed to make a roster cut to reach 15 guaranteed spots.
Let me edit my prior post then:
If you look at it, the Rockets basically traded Christian Wood for Derrick Favors Boban, 2022 1st rd pick (#26 Wendell Moore Jr) and 2025 2nd rd pick and ate a decent amount of $. Not the worst trade for a rebuilding team who didn't intend to re-sign Wood anyways.
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Post by varsity on Oct 15, 2022 11:01:07 GMT -5
Golden State Warriors guard Jordan Poole is finalizing a four-year, $140 million contract extension, his agents Drew Morrison and Austin Brown of CAA Sports tell ESPN. Sides are completing final details today and formal agreement expected soon.
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Post by eddieeddie on Oct 15, 2022 11:06:01 GMT -5
I think Poole is a good player but 35M a year? Geez.
With Steph under a massive contract the next 4 seasons, Dray and Wiggins hitting FA next summer, Klay and Wiseman in 2024 and Kuminga (and Moody I guess) being eligible extension in 2024, curious how they manage things going forward.
However, this is a move they more or less had to do given the age of their veteran core.
For 2022-2023 though, provided they can move on from the Dray/Poole drama, they are obviously locked in as an elite contender.
Interestingly, on fanduel, they are T-3 with the Clips, behind MIL and BOS.
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Post by varsity on Oct 15, 2022 16:31:11 GMT -5
Reporting with @kendra_Andrews: Golden State Warriors All-Star Andrew Wiggins has agreed to a four-year, $109 million extension, his agents Drew Morrison and Steven Heumann of CAA Sports tell ESPN. Wiggins is now tied to the Warriors for five-years, $143 million. twitter.com/i/web/status/1…
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Post by eddieeddie on Oct 16, 2022 7:59:44 GMT -5
Via Bobby Marks
"Golden St. payroll and tax penalty in 2023/24 will likely exceed $500M once the roster is filled.
That factors in Draymond Green opting-in to his $27.6M player option.
With 12 players
💰Salary: $215M 💰Tax: $268M
💰💰Total: $483M"
That math also includes Divincenzo opting in. Plus they'd still need to fill out the roster, spiking the tax even more = the over $500M portion.
I think the Poole contract was a wild overpay, even if I think he is a solid young talent + important piece that needed to be kept but I think the Wiggins contract is actually fairly reasonable. He's still only 27, so being under contract the next 5 years is pretty much his prime. He's proven to be a very vital 3&D piece for them, who has stepped up offensively in a big way when needed.
Of course the big question remains what to do with Dray and honestly between Kuminga, Wiggins (who spent ample time at PF last season) and 2022 1st rd pick Baldwin, they could be prepping for life without him if he insists on an absurd contract.
And fwiw they do own their 2023 1st rd pick also
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Post by eddieeddie on Oct 17, 2022 12:36:59 GMT -5
Rockets extend KPJ
Blazers extend Little
James Bouknight..... arrested for DWI. As if they didn't have enough issues with Bridges' DV and then LaMelo's injury. Granted, even though it's early, Bouknight was headed to bust status as the #11 pick in 2021 anyways.
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