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Post by eddieeddie on Oct 12, 2020 17:23:54 GMT -5
The first offseason post championship since 2010. Funny hearing Laker fans on the news continually referencing it's been "10 YEARS!!!!!". 6 franchises haven't even made the NBA Finals in their existence - Nuggets, Clippers, Hornets, Grizzlies, Wolves, Pelicans. It's been 59 years since the Hawks last made the Finals. 46 for the Bucks. 41 for the Wizards. 22 for the Jazz. 19 for the Sixers. 21 for the Knicks. 17 for the Nets. 22 for the bulls. 15 for the Pistons. 25 for the Rockets. 20 for the Pacers. 27 for the Suns. 28 for the Blazers. 69 for the Kings. Yes, 69!! Mind you this is just making the finals, let alone winning a title. To go back to the last time these teams made the finals you'd be evoking such names as Bob Pettit, Kareem, Elvin Hayes, Stockton/Malone, Drexler, Barkley, Iverson, Ewing, Reggie Miller, Hakeem, Kidd, Billups and then MJ, Pippen, Rodman. To be complaining about 10 years shows how special the Lakers franchise is, how consistently successful they.... and how freakishly spoiled the fans are
Anyhow, this thread is to discuss the Lakers' offseason. Won't be AS eventuful as last year but still a lot of question marks.
Under contract - fully guaranteed: Lebron, Green, Caruso, Kuzma, Horton-Tucker Under contract - partially guaranteed: Cook Player option: AD, KCP, Bradley, McGee, Rondo Free agents: Howard, Morris, Dudley, Waiters, JR Smith, Kostas
Literally a 0% chance AD leaves but even with his return and if the Lakers keep Cook, you're talking about only 7 players for sure to come back. Two of whom many in the Laker fanbase wants to ship out right away in Green/Kuz and one of whom the casual fan has probably never heard of in Horton-Tucker.
So we'll see.
In Rob We Trust.
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Post by wareagle on Oct 12, 2020 20:24:49 GMT -5
Lakers suck!!
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Post by YoungThundercat on Oct 13, 2020 12:23:03 GMT -5
Piggybacking on EE's post with some numbers.
As it stands today, the Lakers have 11 players on the roster + Davonte Cacok on a 2 way deal + cap holds on Morris, Dudley, Waiters, Howard and Kostas + $5M dead cap on Luol Deng (lol) for a total salary of $119,536,054. That puts them roughly $10M over the cap but $13M under the luxury tax.
They have 5 player options due, of which 4 will most likely be picked up, IMO. KCP @ $8.5M, Bradley @ $5M, McGee @ $4.2M and Rondo @ $2.6M. The fifth is obviously AD who will turn down his player option for $28M and sign a fresh max deal.
The Lakers have the 28th pick in the draft, the non-taxpayer MLE and Bi-Annual Exception (no word on what the figures are for these yet) with which to add players outside of trades/vet minimum deals.
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Post by eddieeddie on Oct 13, 2020 13:31:02 GMT -5
They have 5 player options due, of which 4 will most likely be picked up, IMO. KCP @ $8.5M, Bradley @ $5M, McGee @ $4.2M and Rondo @ $2.6M. The fifth is obviously AD who will turn down his player option for $28M and sign a fresh max deal.
I'm not at all certain those 4 will most likely be picked up. Let alone 2 of them.
I do think Bradley picks it up for reasons I mentioned in a prior post.
KCP boosted his value with a solid playoff performance and at age 27, he could look to cash in on a multi-year deal this summer. Especially when you consider that 8.5M is actually less than the mid-level exception (or what it was projected to be before the pandemic anyhow). What helps his cause is he has been with the Lakers for 3 years so they have his bird rights and can offer him a legitimate raise. I think he opts out and re-ups with the Lakers on a multi year deal.
Those salary figures for the player options for McGee/Rondo are utter lowball figures - lower than every exception out there, even the room MLE. They can do better on the open market and the Lakers should offer both raises and luckily have the capability to do so since they have early bird rights on both. Meaning they can offer anywhere between 175% of their prior salary all the way up to 105% of the average salary in the prior season. I don't see the Lakers going all the way to the latter on that range but I see both wanting to get paid and the Lakers understanding that. McGee has been on lowball salaries four years straight, earning a whopping 9.2M, and despite his diminished postseason role he was their starting C. Rondo at 2.6M is less than Quinn Cook and countless other subpar guards in the NBA but he was huge in the postseason and very important in the longevity of Lebron's career by alleviating some of those ball handling duties. It'd be great if both were willing to come back on the cheap on their player options for a shot at another ring - and they *could* - but bear in mind McGee has 3 rings / Rondo has 2 rings. It's not like they are Lebron trying to pad their legacy with titles. I imagine they like the Lakers and want to stay but still care about $ and minutes. If they see greener pastures elsewhere, I can see either bolting. More so McGee because I really think the Lakers would prioritize Howard over him. I do think Rondo comes back but opting out and re-signing at a higher rate.
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Post by YoungThundercat on Oct 13, 2020 14:55:15 GMT -5
You're correct on those, I didn't use the right terms. Rather than they were getting picked up I should have said that either they get picked up, like McGee (IMO nobody is giving him more than that, so why leave for a potentially worse situation), or those players would be back. Although I don't think any of the four would be back for anything aggressively more dollar-wise (but I'm prepared to be surprised) than what those option #s are, or potentially for anything long term. I'm sure Rob and Co. love this team, but it is still the Lakers....and there's still the 2021 FA Class looming. I can't imagine they would put themselves in a position to not be near max level cap space when that class hits after next season.
I was trying to convey that there wouldn't be a lot of wiggle room in terms of open roster spots barring a trade in case people wanted to get crazy dreaming of lots of new signings this offseason.
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Post by YoungThundercat on Oct 13, 2020 17:37:31 GMT -5
Interesting name that was brought to my attention is Bryn Forbes. 4 year vet at 27 years old. Played about 25 MPG last year for SA going for 11/2/2. For his career he's a 40% 3pt guy on 4 attempts/game, 80% from the line on low attempts.
In my estimation he would be the best playable shooter on the roster day one.
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Post by eddieeddie on Oct 13, 2020 19:55:06 GMT -5
You're correct on those, I didn't use the right terms. Rather than they were getting picked up I should have said that either they get picked up, like McGee (IMO nobody is giving him more than that, so why leave for a potentially worse situation), or those players would be back. Although I don't think any of the four would be back for anything aggressively more dollar-wise (but I'm prepared to be surprised) than what those option #s are, or potentially for anything long term. I'm sure Rob and Co. love this team, but it is still the Lakers....and there's still the 2021 FA Class looming. I can't imagine they would put themselves in a position to not be near max level cap space when that class hits after next season. I was trying to convey that there wouldn't be a lot of wiggle room in terms of open roster spots barring a trade in case people wanted to get crazy dreaming of lots of new signings this offseason.
KCP should get more - at least in total guaranteed salary. His salary next season is below the MLE and I believe - and I'm certain he and his agent believe as well - that he is worth much more than that. His agent being Rich Paul of course, whois all about getting his guys paid. The guy got Cory Joseph a deal that pays him 12.6M next season and Eric Bledsoe and Draymond Green fat extensions recently. He'll hook up KCP. As such, he should absolutely opt out and push for a long term deal and capitalize on his age and postseason performance. Honestly, how can he opt in and look at Danny Green and think to himself "Yeah, I totally deserve less than 60% than this guy next season"? If the Lakers don't want to sign him beyond next season to preserve 2021 cap space, they have his bird rights and can give him a huge pay raise for next season. Either way, he'd be foolish to opt in given his positioning. If the Lakers won't pay him, some team will. Teams love to overpay postseason heroes.
Rondo should get more because he deserves it. He took a huge discount last offseason but that was coming off a season where he got hurt and the Lakers sucked. He doesn't sign a 1+1 deal unless he has a plan to opt out for more $ if the opportunity presented itself. I realize he is on the older side and injury prone and he has a good thing going and he's matured and earned respect and all that but these guys still have egos and Rondo, after how huge he came up in the postseason, can't honestly look in the mirror and think "Yeah I totally deserve less than Alex Caruso and Quinn Cook and dozens of other guards and a salary less than 1M more than the rookie scale deal for the #28 pick". Much like KCP, the Lakers can at the least give him a substantial raise for next year.
As for McGee, last year he made it clear he was open to the best offer. He didn't get one and came back to the Lakers. Much like Rondo, he signed a 1+1. Much like Rondo, he only does that if he is at least leaving the door open to opt out for more $. He's still a viable defensive C who isn't that old or overly injury prone who now boasts 3 rings. He might also want to leave on his own volition given his reduced postseason role. Not saying that's his mindset but who knows. Again, the guy has earned 9.2M the last 4 years. That's a pittance for his quality. The first two years made sense when he was little used in Golden State but the last two years with the Lakers as the starting C have increased his value. Not saying some team will go bananas bidding on him in free agency but it's really not hard to beat 4.2M. It's less than half the MLE. We're talking less than Mike Muscala, Ed Davis, JaMychal Green, Kevon Looney, Ivica Zubac-type money.
I don't know if they will get aggressively more but on the surface all absolutely deserve raises. That said I'm prepared to be surprised if they DO pick up their player options because good on them for putting a winning situation ahead of money - more so KCP given his age.
If I had to rank in order of likelihood to pick up their POs, it's Bradley > McGee > Rondo > KCP
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Post by eddieeddie on Oct 15, 2020 11:43:03 GMT -5
Via Chris Sheridan: "Rajon Rondo will opt out of his contract with the Los Angeles Lakers to become an unrestricted free agent, BasketballNews.com learned on Thursday."
Via Shams: "Sources: Anthony Davis plans to opt out of contract and re-sign with the Lakers."
Via RW: "Kentavious Caldwell-Pope is expected to opt out of the final year of his current contract according to Shams Charania of The Athletic. "
Leaves McGee / Bradley
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Post by eddieeddie on Oct 15, 2020 12:33:26 GMT -5
Shams mentioned the Hawks as a potential suitor for KCP. He was born and raised and play HS and College ball in Georgia. While this isn't obviously Lebron going to the Cavs, it would be a nice homecoming for KCP to bring his championship experience to a talented but young Hawks team. They certainly have the cap space to make KCP a quality offer and can free up a starting spot for him by moving Huerter to the bench. If the team drafts a PG like 6'5" Haliburton with the #6 pick, they could have a really intriguing 9 man rotation with a SL of Trae, KCP, Hunter, Collins, Capela and 2nd unit led by Haliburton Huerter, Reddish, Dedmon - with flexibility to add more. Not that KCP is a massive difference maker or that big of a step up from Huerter in a vacuum but his experience + having a full training camp with Capela to go with that impressive young talent - led by Trae/Collins - has big time potential.
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Post by YoungThundercat on Oct 15, 2020 13:06:12 GMT -5
Via Chris Sheridan: "Rajon Rondo will opt out of his contract with the Los Angeles Lakers to become an unrestricted free agent, BasketballNews.com learned on Thursday." Via Shams: "Sources: Anthony Davis plans to opt out of contract and re-sign with the Lakers." Via RW: "Kentavious Caldwell-Pope is expected to opt out of the final year of his current contract according to Shams Charania of The Athletic. " Leaves McGee / Bradley
Yep, you nailed it. I would expect Bradley to pick up since I don't think he gets more on the open market. AD is going 1+1 or 2+1 to get to the 10year vet supermax (35% of the cap). Javale, honestly, I could care less... He's back? Great. He leaves? Whatever. Rondo is interesting. I assume they go closer to the 175% of his salary than they do 105% of league average. If memory serves, you have to go at least 2 years on early bird rights players and I think that brings down the dollar amount annually for what will be offered. We all love Rondo, but not at potentially up to 2/$20M. KCP....I could see LA going somewhere in the 1/$12M range. Maybe I'm baking in the 2021 cap figure too much with this and they would be willing to go longer at less annually? And if I'm LA I'm reminding Rich Paul and KCP that he has made roughly $30M the two years previous to this one when no one else would have come close to that for him. I understand KCP will want to use DG's contract as a point of reference/leverage, but if I'm LA I am conceding that that is a bad contract (that I'm potentially trying to sacrifice my last "asset" in Kuzma to move off of) and I'm not using it as a point of comparison. If ATL or CHA wants to swoop in with a godfather offer, so be it, but most teams (and almost all the presumptive title teams) will be working with a full or partial MLE as their best offer, so it'll be up to KCP what he prefers.
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Post by eddieeddie on Oct 15, 2020 13:48:32 GMT -5
I still believe Bradley picks up
I think AD goes 2+1
I agree that I also don't care what McGee does. If he opts out, go for it. He has been underpaid for 4 seasons and has 3 rings. No one would begrudge the guy if he decided to sign with a bad team chasing $/minutes. Honestly I'd rather keep Howard. Ideally Howard appreciates what he has and comes back for the vet min. In the real world, Lakers would eat into the MLE to pay him. If the Lakers can split the MLE between Howard and Boogie, I'd be on board with that. If McGee does pick up, that works too. 4.2M for a viable starting C is a pretty solid bargain.
Correct on early bird salaries needing to be two years. I'd offer Rondo 2 years 10-12M. Take it or leave it. His playoff heroics are appreciated but not ideal to commit too much to a soon to be 35 year old injury-plagued guard.
KCP, I mentioned just offering him a bloated 1 year deal, much like when they signed him in 2017 to a 1 year 17M deal. If the Lakers do that again, KCP will have essentially earned 54M the last 4 years with the Lakers. I'd say more than ample and he can go chase a long term deal in 2021 when numerous teams will have cap space chasing the dream that is Giannis. If he wants a sizable long term deal, then it's likely goodbye. I'm sure there will be random perimeter-oriented veterans willing to sign for the vet min to ride the coattails of the reigning champs. Not saying KCP is super expendable but if the Lakers get back Avery Bradley and sign a decent free agent veteran - even if it's JR Smith - then it's not a notable loss.
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Post by eddieeddie on Oct 16, 2020 17:44:25 GMT -5
On the topic of Rondo, my friend said "What if he signs with Boston on a 2 year deal so he can retire a Celtic?"
Honestly, I could see that. At least from Boston's angle given a huge deficiency of theirs this season was a lack of proven depth. In the postseason - until they got Hayward back - their 2nd unit was Wanamaker, Semi Joeleye, Grant Williams, Robert Williams. That sounds more like the starting lineup of a G-League team than your primary bench unit.
Would Rondo go back? I mean, they are a solid team, they have minutes to give him and if they offer up some decent coin using their MLE, I could see this older mature version of Rondo floating the idea.
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Post by YoungThundercat on Oct 21, 2020 8:26:41 GMT -5
Here's one just to be thrown out...if you're LA, chances are maybe you split that MLE between a few guys, but maybe do you look at Christian Wood?
He had a breakout season in Detroit this year. Stands 6'10 and 214lbs, he just turned 25 a few weeks ago. Showed some proto-AD like ability, though he'll never get to that level.
He ended the year putting up 13.1p/6.3r/1.0a/0.5s/0.9bl on 57/39/74% splits in about 21 minutes a night. And the advanced stats love him. Contributed above average win shares both offensively and defensively for Detroit.
Now the obvious red flag is that he's bounced around and "found himself" this one singular year so far. And the raw counting stats obviously took a huge bump, as did his usage, when Drummond left for Cleveland.
But, even if you account for pre-Drummond trade (opening night until Feb 5 vs PHO) Wood was averaging 10.5p/5.3r/0.7a/0.5s/0.8bl on 57/37/73% splits in about 15 minutes a night.
Now he'll certainly have suitors, not least of which is Detroit. And you have to contend with, being 25 and having about $4.2M in career earnings, does he prefer to just get the bag from a Charlotte or Detroit rather than take a lesser contract on a team like LA, regardless of their increased ability to win?
I don't know that I wouldn't maybe throw a 2/$18 or 3/$27 offer with the MLE his way. As I said above, he's shown similar ability like AD to space the floor as a big, the ability to be a quality rim protector while not sacrificing perimeter defense. He definitely brings more versatility to the table than either Dwight or Javale if you still have the need or desire to play with LBJ/AD/another big as your starting frontcourt.
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Post by doakley8 on Oct 21, 2020 8:34:55 GMT -5
Wood will chase the biggest $ and where he can get the most minutes. Can't fault him, but he wants to play 30-35 minutes, get his and make the most money. So I think he'll go to a bottom feeder.
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Post by YoungThundercat on Oct 21, 2020 10:35:55 GMT -5
Undoubtedly. Can't wait to see him in his Charlotte Hornets uni with his shiny 4/$60M contract...
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Post by eddieeddie on Oct 21, 2020 10:49:29 GMT -5
Wood will chase the biggest $ and where he can get the most minutes.
Yup. As he should. Obviously most players chase the best combo of $ + minutes but there are probably few out there who should chase it as hard as Wood given what he has gone through. Undrafted despite being projected to be a late 1st rd pick at one point. Played 50 games for 503 minutes for 4 teams from 2015-2016 to 2018-2019 which included being waived multiple times - including three times where a cheap 2nd year option wasn't picked up, clawing around various summer league squads, a brief thing with China, numerous G-League assignments and one full year out of the NBA. He also barely made the Pistons this season from what I've read.
He should absolutely parlay his break out season into the best long term security he can. If it's a crap team, so be it. I've read Morons, Rockets, Knicks, Pelicans, Suns, Kings and obviously the Pistons. THAT being said, with teams saving up cap space for 2021 and the decrease in the salary cap, there may not be as big a market for him in terms of a sizable deal as other summers. There have been rumblings/ideas of a S&T as the Pistons have around 30M in cap space to maneuver.
So while the MLE may not be enough to land him for the Lakers, IF they wanted him there is at least the idea of say: Green + Kuz for a re-signed Christian Wood and Derrick Rose (a player the Lakers are known to have targeted). Rose is very expendable and the Pistons can easily replace him with their lottery pick. Kuz replaces Wood at a much discounted rate next season and they can test him out before deciding to re-sign him in 2021. Green represents either a veteran presence with championship experience, a sizable trade chip with his expiring deal and/or 2021 cap relief given the team would be set for massive cap space. So enough meat on the bone for the Pistons, whose new GM may or may not be keen on committing a long term deal to Wood anyhow. For the Lakers, Rose + Wood give a big time infusion to that bench and at least in this situation - with a S&T and Kuz gone - the Lakers can offer him $, minutes and then also the glitz and glamour of LA.
NOTE: I do not expect the Lakers to actually do this move BUT I do see them pursuing Rose. Again. Would they offer Kuz + Cook for Rose + the Lakers 2021 2nd rd pick back. Or something to this effect. I'm sure, despite the varied feelings on Kuz, that a lot of Laker fans wouldn't favor this move given the gap between Rose/Kuz. Of course the Lakers are 100% in win now mode, so Rose coming off an 18.1ppg 5.6apg season and being a potentially big addition for next season is what would matter.
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Post by eddieeddie on Oct 27, 2020 10:56:10 GMT -5
Bleacher Report had a trade idea of Danny Green, Kyle Kuzma and Horton-Tucker for Oladipo and some online sites have caught wind. There may be some meat to this overall discussion as the Lakers were mentioned among teams interested. Along with Mavs, Knicks, Suns, Raptors, Nets, Timberwolves by Scoop. Brian Windhorst even caught wind and actually said Kuz + Green is too much for Oladipo.
While I understand the risk injury with Oladipo and that since his return he hasn't resembled anything close to his breakout 2017-2018 All-Star season where he won MIP. Then add in his impending free agency and rumblings he wants out of Indiana to complicate things. So whoever trades for him isn't buying him at peak cost and I'm sure Indiana knows that and is factoring that into their decision making. That said, I have to believe they can do better than that Lakers offer.
Also funny to see online someow Horton-Tucker is the next great Lakers' 2nd rd pick. Don't get me wrong, I liked the guy once I learned about him in the draft and he apparently has drawn good reviews from the team but Laker fans have a tendency to overhype their "young guys". Not everyone is the next Nick Van Exel or Jordan Clarkson or another great 2nd round find. Could very well be the next Anthony Brown or Andrew Goudelock.
The best though was my friend saying he wouldn't even trade Green for Dipo straight up because of Green's experience and defense.
Right.
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Post by eddieeddie on Nov 3, 2020 14:08:08 GMT -5
Ian Begley thinks the Nets will waive their 5M option on Garrett Temple due to cost concerns, esp. after bringing back Harris, and a diminished role on a healthy Nets squad. Temple isn't the most durable player and his shooting is certainly inconsistent but he did average 10.3ppg 3.5rpg 2.5apg this past season, can play PG/SG/SF, does have viable 3pt range, has a good bball IQ and can step into big minutes if called upon. I don't know if he is in ring chasing mode or if he will chase the $ but at age 34 and having played for 9 teams in 10 seasons - and a year in Italy - and having made the playoffs just 4 times with one trip to the 2nd round back in 2014, he very well could be willing to take a cheap deal to ride the coattails of Lebron/AD. If Rondo/KCP leave, def a guy I'd keep my eye on
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Post by eddieeddie on Nov 9, 2020 13:38:07 GMT -5
Keep seeing all these "Chris Paul to Lakers" rumors. Apparently Kendrick Perkins thinks it's 85% likely to happen.
OK.
Next up, explain how?
Annoying when "analysts" throw out ideas/rumors/rumblings/opinions based on the what and who and where and why but don't explain the how.
Chris Paul is due 41.36M next season. The ideas I see online about Green, Kuz, 2020 1st and maybe Horton-Tucker - who somehow has vaulted into "intriguing valuable prospect" status among Laker fans just because he's now a potential trade asset - don't even come close to matching salaries. We're talking being off by like 15M.
Yeah the Lakers *could* get there IF they can get KCP to agree to a S&T that makes the trade work BUT does he really want to go to OKC? A team that already is fairly deep on the perimeter with SGA, Schroeder, Ferguson, Bazley, Dort, now Green and a few other randoms. Not to mention its OKC.
Paul isn't going to be a Laker. If I had to 85% it, it'd be the Knicks who have a vastly easier to path to acquiring him.
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Post by YoungThundercat on Nov 9, 2020 13:50:46 GMT -5
Yeah, mainstream analysts and news outlets always lack nuance (particularly in sports).
"I'm hearing BIG NAME might be headed to BIG TEAM! How? Don't ask because I won't tell you. Because I can't tell you. Because its very unlikely to happen. And I certainly won't spend time on more reasonable and likely scenarios."
It's the same crap that drives me nuts around this time with draft stuff. Every player comp is a HOF.
"Conservatively, I think James Wiseman projects as prime Hakeem Olajuwon. That way, when he becomes (the more realistic) DeAndre Jordan, we can mine hours of IS JAMES WISEMAN A BUST? content in three months."
Garbage garbage garbage
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Post by eddieeddie on Nov 9, 2020 14:56:03 GMT -5
NBA player comparisons for draft prospects are the worst. It's almost as if every lottery pick-level prospect is destined to be a superstar and everyone else in the 1st round range has the range of really good role player to fringe star.
De'Anthony Melton was the next Marcus Smart Stephen Zimmerman - Serge Ibaka Bobby Portis - Chris Bosh Stanley Johnson was the next MWP Kendall Marshall - Jason Kidd Kyle Anderson - Jalen Rose Moe Harkless - Paul George Ben McLemore - Ray Allen JaJuan Johnson - LaMarcus Aldridge Wesley Johnson - Vince Carter Ekpe Udoh - Dikembe Mutombo Jordan Hill - Pau Gasol
I can go on and on.......
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Post by doakley8 on Nov 9, 2020 15:09:34 GMT -5
They had Stanley even better than MWP. I think it was baby LeBron or something. Maybe nicknamed Man Child? He had a great body..but a bust
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Post by eddieeddie on Nov 9, 2020 15:33:10 GMT -5
I still remember that basically anyone hefty looking 6'8 or 6'9 player who used their wide body to dominate the college ranks was automatically deemed the next Elton Brand.
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Post by doakley8 on Nov 9, 2020 15:35:24 GMT -5
*Mike Sweetney
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Post by eddieeddie on Nov 10, 2020 18:08:37 GMT -5
Via Vars' post
One name that has emerged as a possibility for the Lakers is the Raptors Serge Ibaka according to NBCSports.com
nba.nbcsports.com/2020/11/08/rumor-lakers-to-target-serge-ibaka-in-free-agency/
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Post by eddieeddie on Nov 10, 2020 18:18:01 GMT -5
Ibaka would be perfect on the Lakers. Great defense. Can shoot the three. Championship experience. Would he settle for the MLE? Maybe, maybe not but he'd be an amazing addition.
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Post by eddieeddie on Nov 13, 2020 20:35:23 GMT -5
Via Shams: "Lakers guard Avery Bradley tells @theathleticnba @stadium he is changing representation and plans to sign with agent Charles Briscoe. He is evaluating whether to decline his $5M player option."
Bradley should have no issue getting a multi-year deal for more than his player option. He stayed healthy. Produced decently (8.6ppg 2.3rpg 0.9spg 36.4 3fg% in 24.2mpg). Teams won't hold his pedestrian stats against him since they know what he has done in recent years and he played a reduced role on the Lakers. Also teams won't hold it against him he opted out of the bubble. What they'll see is one of the better 3&D veterans who has shown he will accept a reduced role on a contender. Personally I think, barring another move that upgrades their SG spot, he'd be a nice fit in Milwaukee. A legit upgrade to Wes Matthews and fill that void from when Brogdon left.
My hope is he picks up the option though and tries to win a ring next season with the lakers and then tries to cash in more in the 2021 market. Yeah he got a ring with the Lakers but he has to feel at least a little bit like he didn't truly earn it.
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Post by varsity on Nov 15, 2020 12:03:27 GMT -5
Lakers and Thunder have agreement in principle on deal to send Dennis Schroder to Los Angeles, and No. 28 pick in Wednesday's Draft to OKC, sources tell @theathleticnba @stadium.
Sources say the deal includes Danny Green heading to OKC as well.
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Post by doakley8 on Nov 15, 2020 12:03:47 GMT -5
Dennis Schroeder for 28th pick and Danny Green.
That should eliminate Rondo, maybe Lakers buy them a 2nd rounder.
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Post by eddieeddie on Nov 15, 2020 12:47:46 GMT -5
I've mentioned Schroeder as a potential Laker target in the past but figured it would cost Kuz + Green. The former being a potential replacement for free agent Gallinari and also because I figured #28 had little value to them given they have a kajllion draft picks as it is.
Green + #28 is a massive steal given we are talking about an electric guard in his prime (27) who has averaged 17.8ppg 3.4rpg 5.2apg the last 4 seasons and is coming off his best 3pt shooting season at 38.5% making 1.9 a game.
Lakers now have options with Kuz - trade him in a separate deal ( be it this offseason or potentially at the deadline) or keep him with the intention to sign him long term next offseason. IF the Lakers extend Schroeder and Kuz, along with obviously re-signing AD, then you are building your core as Lebron's career winds down. He can only defy Father Time for so much longer, despite being a physical anomaly and how much money/time/science/energy he invests in his physical preparation. I also expect the Lakers to buy their way back into the 2nd round. This is a deep draft class, the Lakers' scouts are great at finding talent and teams like PHI/SAC/NO have 3+ 2nd rd picks that could be had for cash.And a handful of other teams could be willing to spare a 2nd rd pick for money given the financial issues going around right now.
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