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Post by eddieeddie on Dec 2, 2020 12:19:58 GMT -5
Via Shams: "The NBA’s tentative Dec. 22 opening night doubleheader on TNT: Nets vs. Warriors in Brooklyn and Lakers vs. Clippers in Los Angeles, sources tell @theathleticnba"
NBA Finals ended October 11
NBA Draft was November 18
NBA Preseason starts December 11 NBA Regular Season starts December 22
Man, talk about your quick turnarounds but hey, we live in crazy times right now.
Thread for 2020-2021 season. I'll put my season predictions in here so I can marvel months from now about how wrong I was. Likely on the Blazers. I'll be high on them and then a rash of injuries sends them to the 11th seed.
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Post by varsity on Dec 2, 2020 12:47:23 GMT -5
Christmas Day games has the Nuggets vs Clippers. Happy Holidays Clippers fans still feeling bad after that blowout loss.
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Post by eddieeddie on Dec 8, 2020 11:38:58 GMT -5
Via Jack Duffy on Twitter: "Cody Zeller will “likely” be the #Hornets starting center this year according to James Borrego. He said P.J. Washington will get solid time at the 5 as well." With a follow up that PJ starts at 4 and Miles comes off the bench backing up 3/4.
PJ Washington/Zeller starting isn't news given that's what they went with primarily last season - aside from the games they inexplicably started Biyombo.The news to me is PJ playing C. The guy is 6'7" 230. Miles Bridges is 6'6" 225. Apparently they went with it some last season and the Graham, Rozier, Cody Martin, Bridges, Washington lineup was productive. So figure upgrade Martin to Hayward and would be that much better. I figured with them re-signing Biyombo and drafting two bigs with Carey Jr./Richards to 4 and 3 year deals respectively they might have stuck with bigger lineups BUT that smaller lineup is the best way to get their most talented five out there, Carey Jr/Richards are 2nd rd pick rookies who need time to develop and Zeller/Biyombo probably represent trade assets as expiring contracts heading into an attractive FA market more than anything else.
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Post by varsity on Dec 8, 2020 13:15:11 GMT -5
James Harden has informed Rockets management he would be open to a trade to other contenders like the Sixers according to Woj.
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Post by doakley8 on Dec 8, 2020 13:17:53 GMT -5
Varsity has informed Team Oak management he would be open to a trade for Harden to his team for a player like Curry according to Woj.
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Post by eddieeddie on Dec 8, 2020 14:34:15 GMT -5
James Harden has informed Rockets management he would be open to a trade to other contenders like the Sixers according to Woj.
"Other contenders". Just trade his ass to New York or Chicago.
He should just demand a trade already. "Open to it". Stop it.
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Post by doakley8 on Dec 8, 2020 15:45:27 GMT -5
Damn, preseason starts Friday? Really does feel quick.
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Post by varsity on Dec 8, 2020 17:50:04 GMT -5
Varsity has informed Team Oak management he would be open to a trade for Harden to his team for a player like Curry according to Woj. Expecting big things from Curry this year. I have no idea what Harden may do lol.
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Post by doakley8 on Dec 10, 2020 13:48:26 GMT -5
Paul George has signed a maximum contract extension with the L.A. Clippers that will guarantee him as much as $226 million over the next five years,
Well...it ain't my money
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Post by eddieeddie on Dec 10, 2020 14:18:06 GMT -5
Paul George has signed a maximum contract extension with the L.A. Clippers that will guarantee him as much as $226 million over the next five years, Well...it ain't my money
I mean it's better than dealing with all the talk of him potentially being a free agent next year.
Of course we still have to deal with that with Kawhi.
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Post by doakley8 on Dec 10, 2020 15:28:51 GMT -5
"The Rockets have no interest in a Nets offer, unless it would include either Kevin Durant or Kyrie Irving." - @shamsnba
Trade Kyrie..that would be epic I'd love to see the Kyrie/Wall train wreck as well
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Post by eddieeddie on Dec 10, 2020 19:10:39 GMT -5
The Sixers aren't trading Ben or Embiid and frankly have little to offer outside of that, so Rockets would pass.
The Nets aren't trading KD or Kyrie. So unless the Rockets drop their price and are ok with offers built around Levert, Dinwiddie, Allen etc., then the Rockets pass.
The Bucks at best would offer Middleton, Divincenzo, random pieces and some 2nd rd picks and obviously Rockets pass on that.
The Heat at best - right now - can offer some young cats in Herro, Nunn, Robinson, Achiuwa etc + cap filler in Olynyk/Iguodala + 2025 and 2027 1st rd picks IF they drop the protection on their 2023 pick headed to OKC. Unless the Rockets are super in love with some of these younger players, this package falls way below their expectations. Not to mention Miami would be stupid to do this trade anyways. Harden is literally the antithesis of what that team is about. Could they use an alpha scorer? Sure but they should get one who fits the team culture.
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Post by eddieeddie on Dec 12, 2020 13:49:23 GMT -5
The Sixers aren't trading Ben or Embiid and frankly have little to offer outside of that, so Rockets would pass.
I should specify, Sixers aren't trading either right now
If the Ben + Embiid pairing doesn't any better than it has in the past under a new coach + a better supporting cast, then it's not impossible the Sixers open to the idea of moving Ben for Harden before the deadline.
Wall + Simmons + Boogie could probably be the most prime trio combination of elite talent + injury history in NBA History.
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Post by YoungThundercat on Dec 12, 2020 16:21:59 GMT -5
The Sixers aren't trading Ben or Embiid and frankly have little to offer outside of that, so Rockets would pass. The Nets aren't trading KD or Kyrie. So unless the Rockets drop their price and are ok with offers built around Levert, Dinwiddie, Allen etc., then the Rockets pass. The Bucks at best would offer Middleton, Divincenzo, random pieces and some 2nd rd picks and obviously Rockets pass on that. The Heat at best - right now - can offer some young cats in Herro, Nunn, Robinson, Achiuwa etc + cap filler in Olynyk/Iguodala + 2025 and 2027 1st rd picks IF they drop the protection on their 2023 pick headed to OKC. Unless the Rockets are super in love with some of these younger players, this package falls way below their expectations. Not to mention Miami would be stupid to do this trade anyways. Harden is literally the antithesis of what that team is about. Could they use an alpha scorer? Sure but they should get one who fits the team culture. The dumb thing is this whole thing could be over if Philly just put Simmons up OR Denver put Murray or Porter Jr on the table. I think any of those 3 players + whatever salary/picks and it's over. Two hour phonecall maximum. But neither team will, so here we are.
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Post by eddieeddie on Dec 12, 2020 17:10:07 GMT -5
Ben Simmons + Danny Green for James Harden + Danuel House some time before the deadline
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Post by YoungThundercat on Dec 12, 2020 21:09:54 GMT -5
Actually another option I heard floated was a flat out salary dump. Since Fertita squeaks when he walks, a team like the Knicks could almost completely absorb Harden + Wall or Gordon's $ and damn near clear Houston's books.
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Post by doakley8 on Dec 15, 2020 19:28:09 GMT -5
Watching the Bucks Mavs playback.. and the Bucks are loaded. They are deeper than Miami and Portland. Alot of mouths to feed
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Post by eddieeddie on Dec 15, 2020 21:41:35 GMT -5
Watching the Bucks Mavs playback.. and the Bucks are loaded. They are deeper than Miami and Portland. Alot of mouths to feed
The Bucks were deeper last year when they had Giannis, Middleton, BLopez, Bledsoe, DiVincenzo, G. Hill, Wes Matthews, R. Lopez, Ilyasova, Korver, Connaughton, Sterling Brown and late season pickup Marvin Williams. That's ridiculous depth and they went with a deep 10 man rotation in the postseason that had regular rotation players like Ilyasova/R.Lopez/S. Brown left out. I noted the Bucks' depth in the Rumors thread - and no question they are "deep" in terms of viable NBA players on their roster - but the quality of their depth drops fairly significantly after the top 7 or 8. If you figure their Top 8 are Giannis, Jrue, Middleton, B. Lopez, DiVincenzo, Augustin, Forbes, Portis - solid but after that is Craig, Connaughton, Stauskas, DJ Wilson. Viable players from 9 to 12 but you're not really worried about feeding those mouths. Maybe just Connaughton because of the contract they gave him but he's not exactly a scorer anyhow.
The Heat have Butler, Bam, Dragic, Robinson, Herro, Bradley, Nunn, Iguodala, Harkless, Leonard, Olynyk and then whomever steps up between Achiuwa/Okpala to claim that 12th roster spot. If there was a situation about a lot of mouths needing to be fed, it'd be that Heat backcourt. The Blazers have a compelling starting lineup as it is with Dame, CJ, DJJ, Covington, Nurkic but arguably have the most talented bench with Trent, Melo, Kanter, Simons, Hood, Collins, Giles, Little. Given the injuries the Blazers have endured in recent years, they had every motivation to stack their roster.
If we're talking pure depth, the 9 to 12 of Miami/Portland is easily better than that of Milwaukee. That said, Milwaukee has the best SL and that matters more.
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Post by doakley8 on Jan 18, 2021 20:27:36 GMT -5
Fake crowd noise in this Nets Bucks game is killing the enjoyment of watching. Its annoying
And time for KD to join the bald club.. just let it go brother
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Post by eddieeddie on Jan 21, 2021 20:38:10 GMT -5
2019-2020: 15.5ppg 13.5rpg 2.9bpg 62.1fg% in 30mpg. Salary: 27.1M
2020-2021: 6.4ppg 4.2rpg 1.1bpg 52.3fg% in 12.7mpg. Salary: 2.3M
Talk about your precipitous decline
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Post by doakley8 on Jan 21, 2021 20:47:58 GMT -5
I just don't the likes basketball or wants to play. He's certainly not happy in Sactown so i think he'll milk the hip injury.
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Post by doakley8 on May 27, 2021 9:50:31 GMT -5
I mean....popcorn is like $8 a bag probably tho...
smh..let em back in the arena's and they act up
do better people
Sixers/Nets conference finals should be good
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Post by eddieeddie on May 27, 2021 10:47:25 GMT -5
Watched most of the Knicks vs Hawks
Only a one game sample as I admittedly watched little of either team this season but the vets came up huge for the Knicks - Rose, Gibson, Bullock all looked great. If Randle/Barrett are on their game, this can be a very scary lineup. Also dude Gallinari. Again one game sample but all I saw from him was terrible shot selection resulting in many bricks. Otherwise he was ass irrelevant as John "I want a MAX contract but all I do is foul people" Collins.
Jazz 141, Memphis 129. No OT. Remember when the playoffs used to be about slowing down the game and grinding on defense?
People are saying Russ overreacted. I mean, perhaps but the Wizards just got their asses handed to them, he had an awful game, he's generally emotional to begin with and really who wants to have food thrown at them, even if it is popcorn. I probably would have lost my mind too and considered going Ron Artest on whoever did that.
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Post by varsity on May 27, 2021 11:45:41 GMT -5
I think Russ's reaction was appropriate. It's just fortunate there were 4 people around to restrain him. But I imagine all game Russ has been called names, been trash talked and now you get hurt and someone throws popcorn on you. I would've flipped too. Fans take things entirely too far because they feel like they have a right to act a certain way if they paid money. Players are human too. And are we really shocked this happened in Philly?
I saw the Knicks game and it was crazy to see fans back in the stadium like that. I'm looking at my fiancee like "When did New York open?" LOL. But I like the energy of the series. Trae Young embracing the bad guy role. D-Rose's redemption story. Lot of good storylines for 2 franchises that desperately need to be relevant again.
I fell asleep during Grizz-Jazz.
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Post by melbourne on May 27, 2021 20:03:43 GMT -5
I think Russ's reaction was appropriate. It's just fortunate there were 4 people around to restrain him. But I imagine all game Russ has been called names, been trash talked and now you get hurt and someone throws popcorn on you. I would've flipped too. Fans take things entirely too far because they feel like they have a right to act a certain way if they paid money. Players are human too. And are we really shocked this happened in Philly? I saw the Knicks game and it was crazy to see fans back in the stadium like that. I'm looking at my fiancee like "When did New York open?" LOL. But I like the energy of the series. Trae Young embracing the bad guy role. D-Rose's redemption story. Lot of good storylines for 2 franchises that desperately need to be relevant again. I fell asleep during Grizz-Jazz. Lot of talk here about Trey becoming the new Reggie Miller! We love a good villain in New York, and Trey Young seems to relish it!
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Post by doakley8 on May 27, 2021 20:07:35 GMT -5
Damn Miami what the hell happened.
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Post by eddieeddie on May 27, 2021 20:38:29 GMT -5
Me before the game seeing the Heat were going to start Dragic rather than Nunn: "That's a good move, should improve that offense"
Me through 3 quarters seeing Dragic is 2 for 10 for 5 points: "Nope, wrong"
Also Herro, Duncan and Ariza have been utterly useless the last 2 games.
Bjelica was actually really good in Sacramento, what the heck happened to that guy?
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Post by eddieeddie on May 28, 2021 10:11:38 GMT -5
Talk about a defensive disaster for the Blazers in the clutch.
When Nurkic fouled out, going really small with Dame, CJ, Powell, Melo, Covington was really really questionable against a team that not only boasted Jokic but fairly big forwards with Gordon and MPJ - and people online certainly agreed as the calls for Stotts to get fired grew quite loud. Not that anyone expected an Austin Rivers' 3pt explosion but when he started to get hot but was still being left open because defenders had to double down low, you're not helping the situation. I know Kanter isn't great on defense but at least he has size, will crash the boards and presents a low post option on offense. He was the logical sub for Nurkic.
Losing Murray was obviously a huge blow to Denver - along with Barton and Dozier's health issues- but Campazzo has been a pleasant surprise, Rivers has proven to be a big time pickup and Morris is a solid 6th man. If they can get Barton back, the Nuggets should be a formidable matchup for the Lakers in the 2nd round even sans Murray with the strength of that frontcourt.
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Post by varsity on May 28, 2021 10:30:31 GMT -5
I was reading an article about Rivers and he said when he sat at home for a month and a half, the knock on him was his character. He said there were tons of teams who wanted him but thought he was a bad locker room guy. I found that interesting. But he came up big for them in the 4th.
The Blazers aren't going anywhere. And as much as I like the Dame-CJ, defensively they are a liability. Couple that with Nurkic and Melo at times and it's just a free ride to the basket. So unless they are shooting lights out, they aren't going to win a championship. My guess is they cut ties with Melo after this season and let him decide if he finally wants to become a Laker and play with LeBron and I would consider shopping CJ and Nurkic. It's just not working and I think ultimately this will be the end result (1st or 2nd round exits).
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Post by eddieeddie on May 28, 2021 10:36:46 GMT -5
Via HR: "After the Clippers‘ starting lineup was outscored by 18 points in 19 minutes across two playoff losses to the Mavericks, head coach Tyronn Lue noted that a change was quite possible, writes Andrew Greif of the Los Angeles Times. “Something needs to be done,” Lue said. The Clippers are currently starting point guard Patrick Beverley, All-Star wing Paul George, power forward Marcus Morris, and center Ivica Zubac alongside Leonard."
Start Rondo over Pat Bev
Start Batum over Zubac
Rondo's passing and court vision + Batum's passing and 3pt shooting will create more offense. I'd also argue this shift would help defensively as well given PatBev is getting abused out there and Batum is more than capable of defending Kleber or Porzingis.
I'd also dust off Luke Kennard and DeMarcus Cousins. Both would also contribute offensively and would seem to bring more to the table than the erratic and desperate rotations of Lue.
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