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Post by YoungThundercat on Jan 6, 2020 12:45:14 GMT -5
Dwight Howard will participate in the Slam Dunk Contest All-Star Weekend in Chicago. C'mon man You know, I'd usually be right with you rolling my eyes but.... After watching John Collins take 5 minutes of prep and wardrobe change to fail to clear a 20" balsa wood airplane...I'm down for anything remotely interesting in the contest.
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Post by varsity on Jan 6, 2020 12:52:43 GMT -5
Dwight Howard seeking attention... NO WAY!
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Post by eddieeddie on Jan 6, 2020 13:26:28 GMT -5
Howard did the dunk contest 3 times already and last in 2009.
It's 2020.
I don't care how freakishly athletic you are, having a 34 year old big man do this contest is just inane.
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Post by doakley8 on Jan 7, 2020 7:53:53 GMT -5
Warriors cut Marquese Chriss to create a roster spot for Damion Lee.
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Post by eddieeddie on Jan 7, 2020 11:27:36 GMT -5
Chriss goes from #8 pick in 2016. Started 75 games his rookie year. Started 49 games his 2nd year. Traded the next offseason as a side piece in a salary dump. Traded again the following trade deadline as a side piece in another salary dump (and he whined about playing time and pretty much got himself traded). Doesn't get his 4th year team option picked up. Signs a 1 year minimum contract with a team with little frontcourt depth. Gets cut midway by the worst team in the West
He went from being an athletic versatile big guy dripping with talent and upside to being a bonehead with low bball IQ with poor body language who can't control his emotions on the court and has some flashes but never consistently and often has games where he is worthless.
The Suns blowing the #4 and #8 picks on Bender/Chriss that draft has to be one of the all-time fails.
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Post by doakley8 on Jan 7, 2020 11:29:16 GMT -5
Chriss just seems like the type of player that needs to go to China and get paid nicely over there and put up double/double numbers.
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Post by eddieeddie on Jan 9, 2020 17:50:10 GMT -5
Apparently Embiid has a torn ligament in his left hand.
Of course he does.
The team is still good at 24-14 but they are 5th in the East and could very well fall down the totem pole once Indy gets Dipo back
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Post by eddieeddie on Jan 10, 2020 11:56:58 GMT -5
Via HR: "The Kings are also considering the possibility of a Dewayne Dedmon trade, and Amick confirms that the Hawks are among the teams with interest in the big man. However, Sacramento’s asking price for Dedmon has been too high for Atlanta’s liking so far, per Amick."
Given Dedmon's contract, his being irrelevant to their rotation and his trade demand, my price would be pretty nonexistent.
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Post by eddieeddie on Jan 10, 2020 20:43:55 GMT -5
Via Ian Begley: "Knicks have talked to Pistons about Andre Drummond trade, SNY source confirms. First reported by Stafium."
Why do the Knicks hate Mitchell Robinson so much?
Sign a bunch of frontcourt players this summer. Only play Robinson 22.7mpg as primarily a reserve despite the fact he looked impressive last season and has far and away the highest PER on the team. He is signed cheaply through 2022 and still only 21, so you'd think they'd commit to him at C and develop him. BUT sure trade for a 26 year old stat-stuffing C on a crap team who has a bloated contract this season and is a potential free agent this summer.
IF the Knicks traded say: Mitchell Robinson, the expirings of Gibson (only 1M guaranteed next season)/Portis + one of the 1st rd picks via Dallas in the Porzingis trade to Detroit for say Andre Drummond and Markieff Morris (so he can once again play with Marcus), that'd be such a Knicks move.
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Post by doakley8 on Jan 13, 2020 15:42:04 GMT -5
Zion plans to make his NBA debut Thursday
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Post by eddieeddie on Jan 13, 2020 16:31:34 GMT -5
Zion plans to make his NBA debut Thursday
Surprised he didn't just wait until Saturday from a nationally televised game against the Clippers.
(Maybe use that Thursday game to shake off the rust)
Pelicans could use Zion since they are smack dab in the playoff race. Like every team in the West not named the Warriors.
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Post by varsity on Jan 13, 2020 17:44:22 GMT -5
Pelicans also may get Jrue Holiday back Thursday as well. Helps them out because it's concern Ingram may rest a few games. Alvin Gentry is likely to keep him out versus Detroit tonight.
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Post by eddieeddie on Jan 13, 2020 18:30:28 GMT -5
The Pelicans are a team I really really liked heading into the season. Honestly, I'd really like to see how they perform when they have a fully healthy rotation - which was far from ever a guarantee given some of the players involved.
BI + Jrue + Ball + Zion + Redick + Hart + Moore + Favors + Hayes That's a really intriguing 9 man rotation
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Post by varsity on Jan 13, 2020 18:59:36 GMT -5
The Pelicans are a team I really really liked heading into the season. Honestly, I'd really like to see how they perform when they have a fully healthy rotation - which was far from ever a guarantee given some of the players involved. BI + Jrue + Ball + Zion + Redick + Hart + Moore + Favors + Hayes That's a really intriguing 9 man rotation I agree. I liked them coming into the season to be a fringe playoff team. Obviously injuries have derailed that. They are only 4 games out of the 8th spot so it'll be interesting to see how these next few weeks play out. If they don't turn the ship around, I wonder will they look to move Jrue Holiday or JJ Redick to a team looking for a playoff veteran and push. I saw a report about the Miami Heat may look at Holiday for a playoff push. Have to think other teams like the Mavs and Sixers looking as well. Denver is a team that's interesting to me. They're currently 2nd in the West but I feel like they are one piece away from being a real threat in the playoffs. You have the expiring contract of Milsap and Gary Harris, who has had an abysmal year, could be a piece a younger team may want to take a flyer on as well.
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Post by eddieeddie on Jan 13, 2020 21:46:09 GMT -5
Jrue Holiday would be amazing in Miami. Perfect fit next to Butler because of his ability to play off the ball and his defensive versatility.
As for Denver, they are often mentioned on stuff I listen to as a team that will be active in the trade market. If for no other reason than they have too many guys. Beasley, Craig and Hernangomez are capable young players who are expendable at this stage, esp. with all 3 being impending free agents. They could attach Miles Plumlee's expiring deal and picks if needed and make a run at a quality upgrade. In an ideal world they'd move Harris but even as a young talent who flashed solid productivity in the past, his contract + poor production this year make him a tough sell, even as a flier.
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Post by obitron64 on Jan 13, 2020 22:32:28 GMT -5
This might sound like a hot take, but I think the Knicks still won that KP trade. His game is hurting bad this year. He's become Andrea Bargnani with better rebounding. He is NOT worth that contract.
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Post by varsity on Jan 13, 2020 23:27:51 GMT -5
It's hard to say the Knicks won the trade because we haven't seen what the Knicks will do with the picks yet. Plus they didn't give up just Porzingis, they also gave up Tim Hardaway Jr and Trey Burke, who were playing well and both have contributed with their respective teams. KP is averaging 17/9 so it's not like he's terrible out there. But I can see why the Knicks were reluctant to give him a massive deal given his injury concerns.
Plus if Luka keeps improving at the rate he is, those picks aren't going to be late first rounders.
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Post by eddieeddie on Jan 14, 2020 11:07:41 GMT -5
At this stage, I don't see how anyone can say the Knicks "won" the trade given that would insinuate the Mavericks "lost it".
The Mavs are 24-15. Obviously a lot of that is Luka but Porzingis is far and away their 2nd best player. A 24 year old big putting up 17.3ppg 9.4rpg 2.1bpg 2.2 3pg and he should get better with more time from the injury and start to more resemble the stud he was when healthy in NY. Teams aim to acquire guys like these, even with his injury concerns and his now max contract. He's not Blake Griffin. Plus THJ is currently their 3rd best scorer - which isn't necessarily a good thing but point is he is a key contributor to their current success. Courtney Lee is a sizable expiring contract and their best trade chip if they want to make a move, i.e. Iguodala.
The Knicks are 11-29 and essentially traded KP for cap space, two 1st rd picks that are probably not going to be lottery and DSJ - averaging 5.2ppg 2.7apg and shooting 32.5% and under contract next season. Had they ended up with the #1 pick and gotten Zion and then used the 55M in cap space they freed up this past summer via this trade for something amazing, then I'm sure a lot of people would see the pendulum having swung in their favor because of a vastly different perception of the direction and state of the squad BUT alas they ended up with RJ Barrett, Julius Randle, Taj Gibson, Wayne Ellington, Bobby Portis etc. The team will have another high pick in the 2020 draft. The team will have cap space again assuming they waive all the unguaranteed salary. The team may even acquire a couple assets moving some of their signings at the deadline. They can still get in the right direction but the initial results from the KP trade far from suggest they "won" at this stage.
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Post by doakley8 on Jan 14, 2020 14:23:00 GMT -5
15-26 record and only 3.5 games back of the 8 seed, is not your typical powerhouse stacked Western Conference.
any of those 8 through 15 seeds win 3-4-5 in a row they are in it
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Post by doakley8 on Jan 14, 2020 14:41:26 GMT -5
The Warriors plan to re-sign big man Marquese Chriss to a two-way player deal
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Post by varsity on Jan 14, 2020 15:21:00 GMT -5
Had they ended up with the #1 pick and gotten Zion and then used the 55M in cap space they freed up this past summer via this trade for something amazing, then I'm sure a lot of people would see the pendulum having swung in their favor because of a vastly different perception of the direction and state of the squad BUT alas they ended up with RJ Barrett, Julius Randle, Taj Gibson, Wayne Ellington, Bobby Portis etc. The team will have another high pick in the 2020 draft. The team will have cap space again assuming they waive all the unguaranteed salary. Exactly. Obviously the relationship between Porzingis and the Knicks was fractured to a point where he wasn't going to return to New York but a big motivating factor in that trade was for cap space, which to be fairly honest, the Knicks blew overpaying for marginal talent. Realistically, Julius Randle is the only player one could say has a long term future with the Knicks and should be a part of that team going forward. Had that team signed Kyrie Irving, Kevin Durant or even a Jimmy Butler, then it's a different argument because at least on paper, you can see a talent upgrade. Swapping out KP, Hardaway Jr, Lee and Burke for Randle, Gibson, Ellington and Portis barely moves the needle, if it moves it at all. And again, those 2 future first rounders are looking more and more like late first rounders if the Mavs continue to improve. Not to mention, they've fired their coach already and currently sitting dead to last in the Eastern Conference. Really hard to say it's a "win."
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Post by eddieeddie on Jan 14, 2020 16:43:56 GMT -5
Raptors are getting Marc Gasol back tomorrow - just after getting Siakam and Powell back on Sunday. Looks like the team is locked and loaded to make a 2nd half run if they can stave off further injuries. At 25-14 and 4th in the East despite all the lost games, they could be a big time postseason threat.
Likewise for Indy at 25-15 and getting Oladipo back in a couple weeks and also dealing with Brogdon/Lamb/Turner missing a good chunk of games. Also a looming threat.
Milwaukee has a substantial lead but only 3.5 games separate Boston at 2 and Philly at 6. Curious to see what moves are made at the deadline and an exciting finish towards the postseason.
Imagine a 1st round matchup of Miami vs Philly and Toronto vs Indy setting up a 2nd round of Milwaukee vs Toronto/Indy and Boston vs Miami/Philly.
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Post by doakley8 on Jan 16, 2020 12:15:32 GMT -5
Timberwolves trade Jeff Teague & Treveon Graham to Hawks for Allen Crabbe
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Post by eddieeddie on Jan 16, 2020 12:37:37 GMT -5
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Post by doakley8 on Jan 16, 2020 12:40:46 GMT -5
Apparently all 3 expiring contracts..all the T-Wolves wanted was to open up a roster spot.
For the Hawks? Maybe a buyout, embrace the tank..and he'll sign with a contender
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Post by eddieeddie on Jan 16, 2020 12:45:23 GMT -5
Funny reading comments about how Trae + Teague will be a solid starting backcourt.
Haha.
No.
Trae is small and terrible on defense. Teague is taller but also small and at best an average defender but generally subpar.
Could this be a precursor to another deal. Like Andre Drummond? Figure Teague would be more interesting to Detroit than Crabbe.
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Post by doakley8 on Jan 16, 2020 12:47:49 GMT -5
Detroit I know is ready to move on from Reggie Jackson. Drummond will have to go as well and they need all the expiring contracts coming back they can get since they have Blake jamming them up
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Post by eddieeddie on Jan 16, 2020 13:12:25 GMT -5
Wolves are 15-25 KAT has been out with illness/injury They just traded their starting PG for essentially nothing.
Tank season? Next up is trading Covington - who should have a robust market Committing to youth in Culver, Okogie, Bates-Diop Perhaps just keeping KAT out even longer Then let Wiggins and Dieng continue to rack up stats in the hopes of trading them (and their contracts) by the deadline
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Post by eddieeddie on Jan 16, 2020 16:50:54 GMT -5
Via The Athletic: "Sources: Jeff Teague deal may just be the beginning for Timberwolves, as trade pursuit of D’Angelo Russell intensifies"
The Wolves *could* offer Robert Covington, Gorgui Dieng, their 2020 1st rd pick (top 3 protected) and 2022 1st rd pick (with protections) for DLo
The Wolves could build around best buds DLo + KAT and then Wiggins, Culver, Layman, Okogie, Bates-Diop etc.
Their best core since the days of Garnett, Sprewell, Cassell
The Warriors could build around - next season - a lineup of: Steph, Klay, Covington, Dray, Dieng/Looney Covington basically being their new Harrison Barnes and Dieng being a good fit because he is athletic and has range.
Plus the young talent they developed this season (Paschall, Poole, Spellman, Damion Lee) plus realistically two lottery picks this draft with their own maybe being top 3. IF healthy, this team is back to being dominant right away + loaded with assets in young talent/picks to make further upgrades.
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Post by doakley8 on Jan 16, 2020 21:03:59 GMT -5
Hawks have interest in Steven Adams, out of running for Drummond.
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