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Post by doakley8 on Dec 6, 2019 14:23:23 GMT -5
Not sure if you watched any of the Rockets/Raptors game
but Raptors on EVERY possession when Harden got across halfcourt then double teamed/trapped and made him give it up. Only reason he shot once in the first quarter..and everybody else shot so much.
and my gah Westbrook can't shoot a lick..I thought they would switch it where Westbrook would bring it up and have Harden off the ball, but never did. It worked great, but eventually holes started opening and lanes got wider and Harden got around and other guys hit shots.
I can see that ploy being taken, was a little box & 1 on him too.
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Post by eddieeddie on Dec 6, 2019 15:18:46 GMT -5
Westbrook has some awful stats when you look at his efficiency:
Westbrook: 39.9fg%, 21.6 3fg%, 4.5 topg, 1.6 A/TO ratio
Compare that to a few other high volume PGs
Lillard: 44.7fg%, 36.7 3fg%, 2.8 topg, 2.64 A/TO ratio Trae Young: 46.3fg%, 39.3 3fg%, 5.0topg, 1.66 A/TO ratio Kyrie: 44.4fg%, 34.1 3fg%, 2.4topg, 3.0 A/TO ratio Kemba: 40.9fg%, 39.6 3fg%, 2.1topg, 2.43 A/TO ratio Morant: 45.7fg%, 41.0 3fg%, 3.4topg, 1.88 A/TO ratio
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Post by doakley8 on Dec 16, 2019 10:34:52 GMT -5
While the Joker is really good..dude really is out of shape. I think he's at 282lbs..and he moves around like it. I think he'd be much better suited at about 255. But he still put up big #'s last night. I dont think the 15-20lbs he gained was ideal like he said he wanted.
and "with the 1st pick in the 2020 Draft the New Orleans Pelicans select"
Didn't realize they were THAT far down
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Post by eddieeddie on Dec 16, 2019 13:05:42 GMT -5
A lot of trade talk is about DLo for the Warriors, Love for the Cavs, the Knicks' expiring contracts, the veterans on the Thunder but honestly it's the Pelicans who I think will be the most interesting at the trade deadline.
They are 6-21. Zion isn't coming back for another few weeks. Ingram is a FA after this season and Ball/Hart are eligible for extensions Jrue, Redick, Favors, Moore are quality veterans who will attract attention on the market IF they decide to be sellers, they will be very popular among contenders.
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Post by doakley8 on Dec 17, 2019 10:42:13 GMT -5
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Post by eddieeddie on Dec 17, 2019 12:54:51 GMT -5
I looked at the Spurs roster on the box score page you linked and have no clue what the problem is.
Am I looking for a typographical error?
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Post by doakley8 on Dec 17, 2019 13:01:47 GMT -5
lol I thought it was obvious
Murray, White, Mills, Forbes, Walker, Belinelli, in a sense Derozan
Way to many guards, and undersized guards for that matter. and with L.A. not being a great rebounder..that roster is just a clutter.
They need to decide who to keep and who to trade.
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Post by eddieeddie on Dec 17, 2019 13:42:45 GMT -5
lol I thought it was obvious Murray, White, Mills, Forbes, Walker, Belinelli, in a sense Derozan Way to many guards, and undersized guards for that matter. and with L.A. not being a great rebounder..that roster is just a clutter. They need to decide who to keep and who to trade.
Ohhhhh. I thought ESPN messed up and listed the same player twice or put a player from another team on there.
I said this about the Spurs before the season. I especially felt they needed to shop Forbes/Belinelli. Both are FAs after the year and to make room for Lonnie Walker/Keldon Johnson.
What's remarkable is for all their guards, they rank dead last in threes attempted and threes made. Also being undersized, they are not good at all defensively - namely getting killed on the boards and not forcing turnovers.
At 10-16 and with DeRozan likely to opt out to test free agency and being a poor fit in a lineup with Murray, who the team just gave a big contract extension to, I think the Spurs will buck the trend of not doing midseason trades and shop him.
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Post by doakley8 on Dec 17, 2019 13:45:42 GMT -5
I'd shop Walker. I think he's too much like Murray/White
They have so many of the same type player. and I would have never believed last in 3's..so you're right.
I'm not surprised they are bad this year..It's like the just started collected under 6'5 players.
Wouldn't surprise me if Pop walks too
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Post by eddieeddie on Dec 17, 2019 14:37:44 GMT -5
Spurs should talk to Sacramento about Dedmon
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Post by doakley8 on Dec 19, 2019 21:17:29 GMT -5
I do not enjoy watching the Freak play at all. Every time he drive down the middle he's going to spin. Reggiemhas mentioned it a few times already. Why teams don't try a zone [like the Heat did last night against the 76ers ] I don't know. He's a beast but it's ugly to watch.
Kuzma needs to get healthy as well, as he's not made an impact st all this year
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Post by YoungThundercat on Dec 20, 2019 6:00:25 GMT -5
I do not enjoy watching the Freak play at all. Every time he drive down the middle he's going to spin. Reggiemhas mentioned it a few times already. Why teams don't try a zone [like the Heat did last night against the 76ers ] I don't know. He's a beast but it's ugly to watch. Kuzma needs to get healthy as well, as he's not made an impact st all this year Agreed. Also realized in the first half that he might be the market correction for early career LeBron. LBJ used to do the same and people would complain about how he would take punishment and not get a whistle (kind of like Shaq back in the day) Giannis seems like that early LBJ except he's getting too many of the whistles when he barges down there. It evened out in the second half with AD getting to the line a lot, but still a bit annoying. Milwaukee definitely exposed a lot of issues the Lakers have: lack of 3 point shooting, lack of ball handling outside of LBJ and Rondo and the lack of perimeter defense. LA doesn't have anything really to trade so it looks like they will need to get lucky in the buyout market if these two teams meet again in June. Biggest takeaway was the play where Giannis pump faked AD at the 3pt line. If guys are going to have to aggressively commit to closing out Giannis out there, we're all fucked.
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Post by doakley8 on Dec 20, 2019 10:04:46 GMT -5
and putting 6'5 KCP on him sometimes, was foolish
But The Freak literally just comes down the middle bulldozing then spins every time.
Can't imagine watching Rockets-Bucks Finals
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Post by eddieeddie on Dec 20, 2019 11:30:02 GMT -5
Freak shot 5 for 8 on threes. Obviously that's an anomaly for this season, let alone his career, but the fact that he is now even a decent 3pt threat ( makes 1.8 a game at 33.8%) just makes him even more difficult to guard, which is frankly mind-blowing because really it was the one weak link to his game.
The Lakers were without Kuz but let's not kid ourselves, he can't guard Freak. Plus the Bucks were without Bledsoe and going from him to Divincenzo is quite step down. He is exactly the type of athletic scoring guard that can give the Lakers' issues (last season he averaged 22.5ppg 8.5rpg 6.0apg versus them).
This very well could have been a finals preview and the Lakers have a better idea of where they need to shore up some things. They don't have many trade assets. Just a few small expiring deals. They could hope something shakes out on the buyout market. Wouldn't count on Iguodala given Memphis' stance - with them trading him to Dallas for the expiring deal of Lee and 2nd rd pick(s) being their floor.
One trade that does work though is:
Lakers trade Dudley and Cousins Spurs trade DeMarre Carroll
Carroll was supposed to be a key acquisition for the Spurs but he's been an odd man out as the team prefers to just roll out a bunch of guards alongside their "frontcourt" of LA, Gay, Poeltl, Lyles. This for the Spurs is a straight up salary dump as Carroll is owed 6.65M next season (only 1.35M of his 2021-2022 deal is guaranteed).
For the Lakers, it's cold blooded to trade Dudley/Cousins but neither is providing anything. The latter due to injury. The former because he's really more assistant coach than player. Carroll is languishing in San Antonio but has proven to be a very very solid rotational player for multiple years prior. He'd instantly bring defensive energy and hustle, 3pt shooting and another veteran presence with viable playoff experience to the table.
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Post by varsity on Jan 16, 2020 10:46:13 GMT -5
Dame Lillard vs Russell Westbrook matchup is slowly becoming one of my favorite rival matchups. From a talent perspective it's better than Westbrook vs. Beverly. They absolutely hate each other.
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Post by doakley8 on Jan 16, 2020 11:00:00 GMT -5
I think the Rockets will again see that it's not going to work.
and surely don't see Dantoni coming back next year
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Post by eddieeddie on Jan 16, 2020 12:09:49 GMT -5
Russ sucks at threes (a crappy 23.6% yet takes about 5 a game), commits a crapload of turnovers (4.3 a game) and for all of his talent and athleticism and stats, just really isn't an efficient offensive player who is over reliant on iso plays and jumpers that more often than not brick. Kirk Goldsberry tweeted out earlier this month that Russ is the least efficient jump shooter this season and it's not even close. FWIW the rest of the bottom 5 is Jokic, Sexton, AD and Wiggins.
That just isn't a logical player to put next to a ball dominant player in Harden. I liked the trade of Paul for Russ for Houston back then but mostly because I just viewed Russ as an upgrade to Paul due to age and ability to stay healthy and attitude. Seeing Paul now in OKC, healthy and a key contributor to a surprising 23-18 and playing well alongside a budding star in SGA and having a contract that is one year shorter, have to imagine there is some buyers remorse going on.
Houston would be so much better off if they had a Patrick Beverley at PG. Or a Malcolm Brogdon. Or a George Hill. Or a VanVleet. Or even a Goran Dragic.
Not that any of these teams would trade these guys for Russ.
Would Charlotte/Houston even remotely consider Rozier + Batum for Russ? Charlotte adds about 65M overall but hey, Russ gives them a star PG to replace Kemba and fwiw he is team Jordan - signed until 2026. Batum is complaining about his role, so moving him removes a distraction and frees up PT for younger guys.
Houston obviously saves that $, gets much younger at PG with Rozier who is comfortable off the ball and 39.9% on threes this year but still provides solid enough offense next to Harden. If anyone can find a role for Batum at this stage of his career it's D'Antoni.
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Post by doakley8 on Feb 24, 2020 8:47:51 GMT -5
I only watched the last 6 minutes or so of the Morons-Lakers..and barely getting past a Kemba-less C's isn't much to harp on. and they got he benefit of some home cooking calls at the end.
They'll need Green/Bradley so actually hit open shots..or KCP will continue to get some end of the game burn since he's shown it more consistently. Maybe that's why they were working out JR Smith.
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Post by eddieeddie on Feb 24, 2020 19:32:11 GMT -5
I only watched the last 6 minutes or so of the Morons-Lakers..and barely getting past a Kemba-less C's isn't much to harp on.
They also had a hard time putting away the Grizzlies who didn't have JJJ 2nd half of the game and basically their entire starting lineup stunk it up. The team let Josh Jackson look good.
Hard to criticize a 43-12 team but some of their performances, like barely beating the sad sack Warriors before the All-Star break, make you have doubts. Most other cases Id say this is a case of waiting for the postseason to turn it on but anyone who has watched Lebron/AD play knows that isn't the case.
They just need to get some consistent help from outside their Big 2.
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