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Boogie
Aug 16, 2019 10:57:57 GMT -5
Post by doakley8 on Aug 16, 2019 10:57:57 GMT -5
Cousins injury obviously huge..sucks for him as a player/person. I would guess he would try to make it back by WCF..so he could play in finals.
There's always Dwight Howard
D12/Javale combo isn't the worst problem in the world.
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Boogie
Aug 16, 2019 12:13:59 GMT -5
Post by YoungThundercat on Aug 16, 2019 12:13:59 GMT -5
Yeah, he's dropped as far as the league is concerned. I'm unfamiliar, if the Lakers get their DPE from his injury, is he still available for late season/playoff run?
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Boogie
Aug 16, 2019 12:34:35 GMT -5
Post by doakley8 on Aug 16, 2019 12:34:35 GMT -5
oh..I got confused with new setup on where to make Boogie post..but I'mnot sure on DPE. I heard it mentioned on tv but I was doing something. I would think he would be out for the year if they could get get the exception.
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Boogie
Aug 16, 2019 13:07:35 GMT -5
Post by obitron64 on Aug 16, 2019 13:07:35 GMT -5
This is already way better than the old board design wise. Lets try to get everyone migrated to here for now.
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Boogie
Aug 16, 2019 13:09:08 GMT -5
Post by doakley8 on Aug 16, 2019 13:09:08 GMT -5
too late to migrate over here..can't get back on scout to let them know..so it'll just be the 5-10 of us I guess. Lame for 247
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Boogie
Aug 16, 2019 13:42:38 GMT -5
Post by eddieeddie on Aug 16, 2019 13:42:38 GMT -5
Still some good big free agents out there. What complicates things is apparently AD is vocal about his desire to not play C. I don't know why that is such an issue for him. The C spot is far more finesse than bangers these days - and those who are bangers aren't exactly Shaq. I mean, are you really that scared of Andre Drummond, Myles Turner, Valanciunas, Ayton etc? IF AD was fine starting at C, Lakers could go Lebron-Kuz-AD to start, have McGee at backup C and can sign someone like Kenneth Faried for depth at PF/C. But if AD wants to play primarily PF, then probably McGee starts and the team will need to target a bigger player like Howard, Gortat, Noah etc.
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Boogie
Aug 18, 2019 6:05:53 GMT -5
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Post by YoungThundercat on Aug 18, 2019 6:05:53 GMT -5
I'd personally prefer Noah. I like his playmaking at the 5, especially in the second unit. Also his leadership could come in handy if the team is looking to make a big boy run through May-June.
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Boogie
Aug 18, 2019 21:05:27 GMT -5
Post by varsity on Aug 18, 2019 21:05:27 GMT -5
Looks like the Lakers are keeping eyes on Dwight Howard according to ESPN
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Boogie
Aug 19, 2019 6:40:37 GMT -5
Post by doakley8 on Aug 19, 2019 6:40:37 GMT -5
ehh..I'd take Howard. He can still get 10-12 rebounds and dunk. Sign him up
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Boogie
Aug 19, 2019 13:18:37 GMT -5
Post by eddieeddie on Aug 19, 2019 13:18:37 GMT -5
Im fine with Howard if only because I can brush off that Nike Howard Laker Jersey I got on clearance for $4.99 years ago. Assuming he can get #12 away from Laker stalwart Devontae Cacok.
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Boogie
Aug 20, 2019 11:07:31 GMT -5
Post by doakley8 on Aug 20, 2019 11:07:31 GMT -5
The Lakers are planning individual workouts to evaluate centers Joakim Noah, Dwight Howard and Mo Speights this week in Los Angeles.
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Boogie
Aug 20, 2019 11:22:59 GMT -5
Post by eddieeddie on Aug 20, 2019 11:22:59 GMT -5
Realistically speaking Speights makes the most sense because of his 3pt range
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Boogie
Aug 20, 2019 11:40:42 GMT -5
Post by doakley8 on Aug 20, 2019 11:40:42 GMT -5
I'm still taking Howard even if its 50 games and dealing with injuries. With him & AD's blocking ability protecting the paint would be huge.
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Boogie
Aug 20, 2019 13:45:55 GMT -5
Post by eddieeddie on Aug 20, 2019 13:45:55 GMT -5
Howard's not likely to hold up over the course of the season. There is a legitimate risk he complains about his role when he is active. He's also relatively redundant to McGee. What made Boogie/McGee work was they were complementary. What the Lakers lack with losing Boogie is a frontcourt player who can stretch the floor. Neither McGee, Howard have range (or Noah), AD has a solid mid-range jumper but he's not much of a 3pt threat, Kuzma is coming off a lousy 3pt shooting season, Lebron's a mediocre 3pt shooter and who knows how much Dudley will play.
In an ideal world, the Lakers just cut Boogie and use the 2 roster spots on Howard AND Speights.
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Boogie
Aug 20, 2019 17:58:46 GMT -5
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Post by YoungThundercat on Aug 20, 2019 17:58:46 GMT -5
Honestly I'd just take Noah for that video of him punking out bitch ass Devin Booker in the open run from yesterday.
Dude is complaining about getting doubled in an open gym setting. Learn to pass then.
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Boogie
Aug 21, 2019 0:31:33 GMT -5
Post by varsity on Aug 21, 2019 0:31:33 GMT -5
Out of the people named, I'd probably take Noah too. He played a little better in Memphis last year and I think he's a better fit from a leadership standpoint. I just think Howard will be injured the majority of the time like EE said and I just question if Howard can handle everything that will go on with this team and not try to stand out in some way.
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Boogie
Aug 22, 2019 10:59:02 GMT -5
Post by eddieeddie on Aug 22, 2019 10:59:02 GMT -5
Howard has been with 6 teams since leaving Orlando in 2012. Traded 3 times and if he is free to sign with the Lakers, it means he's been waived 2 times.
Look, the guy can get a double-double in his sleep and in the vast majority of scenarios the idea of adding him to a contending team that needs a C for the veterans minimum is a no-brainer BUT given the volatility with the Lakers in recent years and all the nonsense that Howard seems to bring with him, a new head coach trying to figure things out, the lofty expectations and certain media scrutiny, the health issues Howard has and the team itself has - I think aiming for chemistry/health over talent is the better route.
This is why I prefer Speights over Noah/Howard, if for no other reason he is the most likely to NOT suffer a season ending injury.
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Boogie
Aug 22, 2019 11:17:38 GMT -5
Post by doakley8 on Aug 22, 2019 11:17:38 GMT -5
I agree with what Jalen Rose said..Howard hasn't mentally changed his mindset of being a role player. He doesn't think he could be ok with some nights playing 4 minutes and getting 2 fouls..etc. I don't know if it would be to that extent.. but he could have a string of games where he's a 10-15 minutes guy..and he's too "proven" to want to settle for that. Even if he says he'll take any role.
Noah..I think would accept it. and be good in a split with Javale...
Plus Howard complains so much..and so does LBJ..that would just get old.
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Boogie
Aug 22, 2019 11:42:45 GMT -5
Post by eddieeddie on Aug 22, 2019 11:42:45 GMT -5
Lakers were also looking into Marcin Gortat. He is also a good option that combines experience, locker room presence, durability and skill level at an advanced age. He's durable. In the 10 seasons since 2009-2010, he's only missed decent time due to injury in one season ( 2012-2013 missing 21 games with a foot injury). He missed 2 or fewer games in 7 seasons, including playing a full 82 in 2016-2017 and 2017-2018. He played 47 games last season but it wasn't due to injury, he was cut by the Clippers. He's still an effective player. Give him 15 to 20 minutes and he'll likely get you 6ppg 6rpg, protect the rim, hit some mid-range jumpers and be an efficient scorer down low. He's certainly experienced and has 86 playoff games under his belt. He's a fiery player who wants to win.
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Boogie
Aug 22, 2019 11:47:53 GMT -5
Post by doakley8 on Aug 22, 2019 11:47:53 GMT -5
He also sets one of the best picks in the league..and has no problem just being that high pick guy..even if it's not fed back to him..opens up a wing shot if the guard penetrates. I'd take any of the options..I'd still probably put Mo 4th.
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Boogie
Aug 22, 2019 12:05:32 GMT -5
Post by eddieeddie on Aug 22, 2019 12:05:32 GMT -5
I'd still probably put Mo 4th.
Speights is far and away the only 3pt threat among Noah, Howard, Gortat - for a team that focused on shooting and lost some with Boogie
Speights is younger just turning 32 than Noah, Howard and Gortat - who will be 34/35 during this season
Speights is way more durable than Noah Speights doesn't have the locker room drama of Howard Speights has a ring in a season where he was a rotation player
I mean, if this was 2012, then heck yeah he's last. By a mile. It's 2019 though and the Lakers just need someone who can accept being a role player, who can stay healthy, who can hit open shots and who has the type of experience a contending team come playoff time. I think people are discounting him because he's the least exciting name of the bunch but in all realism, he might be the best option. The Lakers worked him out for a reason. He could very well be 4th in their eyes but he shouldn't be because he is the best complement to McGee of the bunch.
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Boogie
Aug 22, 2019 12:13:23 GMT -5
Post by doakley8 on Aug 22, 2019 12:13:23 GMT -5
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Boogie
Aug 22, 2019 12:37:35 GMT -5
Post by eddieeddie on Aug 22, 2019 12:37:35 GMT -5
Check that out..and the interesting names on the list. Didn't know Shavlick Randolph (local kid here) was in China, Hansborough.. a few former Lakers on there too. But Mo put up 8.7 3's a game last year..shot 36%. I just think Howard or Noah would have an overall more productive minutes, and protecting the paint, than just Mo being a 3 point threat. But..he could very well be the pick and pop 3 point role that Boogie was going to do.
Howard and Noah would be more productive in their limited role and are better rim-protectors. Of course that is if you are ignoring the main points we've brought about Howard's unlikelihood of accepting a diminished role and his health issues. Sure he's healthy "now" but who knows if that'll hold. With Noah, the guy has been severely hampered by injuries and is turning 35 around the All-Star break. The idea of "Hey we lost Boogie to injury, let's go out and sign a very injury prone player to replace him" just has a questionable ring to it.
We've been pining for shooting since last offseason. With Boogie hurt, the Lakers lost a legitimate deep threat from the C spot. Speights would help at least fill that void - along with his other attributes. Just turning to Howard/Noah is basically creating a redundancy at the position - with a big question mark on health.
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Boogie
Aug 22, 2019 15:17:43 GMT -5
Post by eddieeddie on Aug 22, 2019 15:17:43 GMT -5
Via Windhorst on ESPN: "the Lakers coaches want a younger, more active player at this point in their careers."
Yeah..... so probably best to not look at Noah, Howard, Gortat or even Speights. Or Nene. Or Amir Johnson. Or even Faried or Ryan Anderson.
Maybe give that young 29 year old Greg Monroe a look. Or if they truly wanted young, take a flier on Marquese Chriss
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Boogie
Aug 23, 2019 16:17:31 GMT -5
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Post by doakley8 on Aug 23, 2019 16:17:31 GMT -5
Dwight it is.. hope he stays healthy and accepts his role.
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Boogie
Aug 23, 2019 17:13:20 GMT -5
Post by eddieeddie on Aug 23, 2019 17:13:20 GMT -5
Look, Howard was the best of the bunch in terms of pure ability and assuming health/compliance, he can make the biggest impact in a 20mpg role. He's also arguably the worst fit in terms of the combination of health, offensive skill and locker room chemistry.
I mean, with the 15th spot, can't really blame the Lakers for just going with the pros over the cons.
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Boogie
Aug 28, 2019 11:07:30 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2019 11:07:30 GMT -5
Well I hope Howard keeps a good attitude. I wanted Noah or Faried.
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Aug 29, 2019 14:34:30 GMT -5
Post by doakley8 on Aug 29, 2019 14:34:30 GMT -5
A warrant has been issued for the arrest of Los Angeles Lakers center DeMarcus Cousins on a misdemeanor domestic violence charge. ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ Cousins' ex-girlfriend, the mother of his 7-year-old son, filed a police report Friday, about two hours after she alleged Cousins threatened to "put a bullet in your (expletive) head.” ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ Galanos said it’s unlikely Cousins would serve much if any jail time if convicted or if he takes a plea in the case.
....yea...I'd probably cut him, although that would make it unlikely he'd want to sign again lol. I saw the video..just words but threat is a threat..can't say stuff like that
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Boogie
Aug 29, 2019 16:04:05 GMT -5
Post by eddieeddie on Aug 29, 2019 16:04:05 GMT -5
If Cousins was still healthy, this would be a very awkward messy situation.
Cousins isn't healthy. Cut him. Move on from the situation and distraction.
And you free up a roster spot. Holding onto Boogie is just pointless from a personnel standpoint. I'm not thrilled with the idea of adding Melo but he's obviously far more useful than Boogie.
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Boogie
Aug 30, 2019 10:09:23 GMT -5
Post by varsity on Aug 30, 2019 10:09:23 GMT -5
I doubt the Lakers make a move on him. He's away from the team as it is with his injury and his contract is guaranteed. If the league suspends him, they'll recoup some money for him and I think they can even file a DPE for him since he is ruled out for the season.
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